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Re: 08 vs. 07 model year ???? [tewks999] by nastacio
Aug 29, 2007 (8:32 pm)
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Replying to: tewks999 (Aug 29, 2007 6:13 pm)

MT had the 60-0 braking distance at 123ft, virtually identical to the 121ft for an Acura MDX: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/112_0706_acura_mdx_gmc_acadia_mazda_cx_- 9/specs.html
 
Popular mechanics did show the CX-9 to be worst in test from 70-0, at 147ft; but others like the Hyunday Veracruz and Saturn Outlook were only a couple of feet better: http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4220226.html?page=7
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Re: 08 vs. 07 model year ???? [nastacio] by dashbb
Aug 29, 2007 (9:19 pm)
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Replying to: nastacio (Aug 29, 2007 8:32 pm)

So, all else being equal (test parameters, conditions, etc), CX-9 stops no worse (and no better) than the leading competitors. If the only negative thing Consumer Reports found was braking distance, then this is one respectable car!
 
No worries whatsoever for the brakes are just fine. Ask any person who owns/drives a CX-9 and you will not find anyone complain about the brakes.
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Re: 08 vs. 07 model year ???? [maverick8] by dashbb
Aug 29, 2007 (9:31 pm)
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Replying to: maverick8 (Aug 29, 2007 2:01 pm)

The 2008's have just hit the dealerships and there are no incentives. There is 1 dealer advertising 1.9% for 36 months for the 2008's but when I called Mazda, they did not confirm.
 
Financially speaking, you'll be ahead by atleast $4,000 buying a 2007 vs a 2008. 10 extra HP and the $200 Blind Spot System ain't worth the extra dough.
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Just Bought a 2008 Grand Touring by regards
Aug 30, 2007 (6:23 am)
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We just bought a 2008 CX-9 Grand Touring and thought we'd share our experience.
 
My wife had hauled our kids in our 2000 Odyssey long enough (165,000 mi, never an unscheduled repair). We're in the $35-40k price range and test drove: CX-9, redesigned 2008 Highlander, MDX, Veracruz, Sequoia, and a 470 and 330 (used, or should I say pre-owned). My wife is a Japanese devotee who wouldn't even consider a U.S. badged vehicle, such as the SRX or Enclave. She was even leery of the CX-9's Ford engine, but okay w/ a Japanese built Ford engine. She was leery also of the Hyundai until she drove it. The CX-9 was my favorite right away, but we also really liked the Veracruz. The key points for the CX-9 for me: better acceleration and handling (zoom-zoom); for her: the handle to move the second row seats forward on the Veracruz was so stiff she couldn't operate it, where the CX-9 was smooth and easy. She also wanted the navigation pkg which wasn't avail on the 2007 Veracruz. We really liked the Grand Touring model w/ the 20" wheels and snazzy instrumentation. The Aug Consumer Reports was what interested us in the CX-9, the Sep Popular Mechanics and the new NHTSA ratings cemented the decision for us.
 
Called five Mazda dealers w/in 200 miles; remaining 2007s didn't have the color (white) and the high end options we wanted, incl all wheel drive (technically AWD isn't an option but a separate model), moonroof and assist pkg (navigation/rear camera/power hatch). We were told that those had been already snapped up by shoppers who recognized the value offered. By moving to the 2008, the sticker is just under $1000 more, and you lose the 0% financing. One dealer had just had delivered exactly the car we would have gotten had we ordered one from the factory: a white 2008 AWD w/ roof, assist pkg, towing pkg, Sirius radio, roof rails; stickered at $41090 (factory sticker, not a dealer sticker w/ delivery charge, pinstripes, etc.). Offered us a price of $38910, nearly $2200 off, which was more than the other dealers had come down on cars which didn't fit us like a glove. Signed on the dotted line and got the 1.9%/36 month financing. Took it home and our 19 year old car/gadget-guy son programmed all Mom's numbers in the Bluetooth and told us how cool the car was. He's right!
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Re: Just Bought a 2008 Grand Touring [regards] by kyfdx HOST
Aug 30, 2007 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: regards (Aug 30, 2007 6:23 am)

Congratulations on the new car!
 
You should write a review! You can copy and paste a lot of what you wrote here.
 
Dealer Ratings and Reviews
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Re: Just Bought a 2008 Grand Touring [regards] by warever
Aug 30, 2007 (10:53 am)
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Replying to: regards (Aug 30, 2007 6:23 am)

Congrats on the new car... enjoy.
 
But to clarify, AWD isn't either an option OR a separate model (as you said); it is considered a "trim." And technically, GT is part of that trim designation; there's the FWD GT as one trim, an AWD GT as another trim, the Sport FWD is another trim, etc.
 
Often, the problem with a new model year in terms of pricing isn't just that the MSRP is higher but also that the discount off MSRP that you'd get on the older year just isn't available on the newer year. So let's say that you'd get $4,000 off on a 2007 and $2000 off on a 2008 and that the 2008 MSRP is $1,000 higher. Well, that's a $3,000 price spread ($2,000 less discount and $1,000 higher MSRP). I actually had that issue 4 years ago when I got a 2003 RX300 instead of waiting 2 months for the 2004's which would have cost me about $6,000 more due to the slightly higher MSRP and non-existent discount.
 
As for an American car versus a Japanese car, things are REALLY hard to figure out these days. I mean, is a Toyota that's assembled in the US by US workers really a Japanese car? Or is it really an American car? And Mazda is considered a Japanese company, but it is owned by Ford (I don't know the exact percentage - not sure if it is 100%, a majority, or just some large percentage). So is a Ford-owned Mazda made in the US from both US and Japanese parts considered an American car or a Japanese car? Or is a Ford-owned Mazda made in Japan from both US and Japanese parts considered an American car or a Japanese car?
 
In any case, enjoy.
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Re: Just Bought a 2008 Grand Touring [warever] by nastacio
Aug 30, 2007 (12:18 pm)
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Replying to: warever (Aug 30, 2007 10:53 am)

And Mazda is considered a Japanese company, but it is owned by Ford (I don't know the exact percentage - not sure if it is 100%, a majority, or just some large percentage).
 
Ford owns 40% of Mazda.
 
I think the key issue people bring up when talking about US vs. Japanese cars is quality. Quality is heavily affected by processes, people, and machinery in the assembly line.
 
I have read in many places that Toyota was not pleased with the overall final quality of its products assembled in US compared with the ones assembled in Japan.
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Re: Just Bought a 2008 Grand Touring [regards] by smartgroup
Aug 30, 2007 (9:47 pm)
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Replying to: regards (Aug 30, 2007 6:23 am)

Regards
Just wondering if your 2008 GT has Blind Spot Monitoring System yet? According to the brochure, it's available in the fall. I am also in the market for 2008 CX-9 GT AWD w/ RSES & Navigation.
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Follow Up From REgards by regards
Aug 30, 2007 (11:09 pm)
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In reply to our new CX-9 colleagues:
 
Warever: As to "model" vs. "trim": I was passing on what was on the first line of the manufacturer's sticker on the car we bought, which read: "Model: 2008 CX-9 Grand Touring All Wheel Drive". Don't know where your "trim" comes from (but I know where I get mine; see following paragraph).
 
Concur; it would've been great if a "fit like a glove" 2007 at a lower sticker/bigger discount had been on the lot, but it wasn't. So I had two options: compromise to save a few shekels, or pay a little more for exactly the car my wife wanted. I've learned a thing or two having been happily married for 24 years, and the choice there is a "no brainer".
 
Warever/Nastacio: We are aware of the Ford/Mazda ownership. Note that I (carefully) used the term "U.S. badged." My wife's old car was an Odyssey built in Ohio, and I drive a Toyota Tundra built in Indiana, both of which we love(d). We believe the Japanese badged companies still do a better job overall in their assembly process, whether in the U.S. or Japan, than the U.S. badged cars, and overall have a higher level of commitment to quality yet to be equaled by the U.S. badged vehicles. But that is a discussion for another forum...
 
Smartgroup: We've yet to discover all the goodies on our new car, but aren't aware of a Blind Spot Monitoring System, other than the time-tested turning of the head (we're not yet old enough to have done away w/ it), or a Pep Boys fish eye lens stuck to the side mirrors. If I discover a BSMS while going through the owners manual, I'll let you know.
 
As to the RSES, you probably know the CX-9 comes with either the sunroof OR the DVD RSES. We figured it'd be easier to aftermarket install the latter rather than the former.
 
REgards
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"Assessment fees" as part of the invoice price by nastacio
Aug 31, 2007 (10:35 am)
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I have pre-ordered am 08' CX-9 in our local dealer using the S-Plan (Ford Suppliers Plan.) Now the dealer wants to charge a $435 "assessment fee" on top of the S-Plan, which is already on top of $397 in doc fees and $38 for an "electronic filing fee".
 
I am getting a good price anyway (near invoice) for an 08 model, but what bothered me is that the dealer claimed that the "assessment fee" was part of the invoice, as in, charged by the factory. They insist very strongly in this point because they did not list the charge in the original estimate and now want to include it in the "S-Plan" item in the pre-order.
 
I can always walk from the deal and buy it somewhere else, but can anyone confirm?

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