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#2585 of 3688 Canadian buying used CX-9 in US - Deal or Not?
Mar 24, 2010 (2:48 pm)
We have a Minneapolis dealer looking for a used 2009 or 2010 CX-9 GT loaded with Nav and moonroof, or Nav and RSES w/Bose/Sirius, LG2 and RSE. We have to pay cash because financing is not offered to Canadian citizens. We also have to pay 6.1% duty at the border because Mazda's are imports. Walser Mazda is telling us they can get a used 2010 Grand Touring loaded with moonroof or DVD system, with less than 10K, driven by Mazda reps, and are we willing to pay $33,000? With 6.1% duty added we're looking at $35K for the vehicle, plus we have to pay our taxes and we have to add another $400-$500 for DRL (daytime running lights), safety checks and admin. costs. So true cost is about $35,500 - $36,000 plus taxes. Would you pay $33K U.S. for a used 2010 with remainder of warranty and around 10K mileage? No dealer incentives here. How should we proceed? Used CX-9's are hard to come by. Need your advice on this, thx.
#2586 of 3688 Re: mazdaduck [aviboy97]
Mar 24, 2010 (3:12 pm)
Aviboy, I disagree with your assessment that I am providing "completely unrealistic" advice. I know that the deal is realistic because I actually purchased a vehicle earlier this week for $33,000 out the door, zero percent financing (that is a 2010 FWD Touring, with Moonroof Bose and Powerlift, and 3 miles on it). I believe that the consumers in this forum want to hear about prices paid for the vehicle by other consumers (hence, the topic of the post) even if they might not ultimately get the same deal in their area. If pcvtre does not have the time to shop around, that is fine. For others like me who want to spend a weekend aggressively negotiating the best deal with multiple dealers, my advice might be helpful. You are correct on the quarterly/monthly sales issue - I will give you that. And, if dealers gave consumers "all the facts first" - as you put it - there would be no need for this forum.
#2587 of 3688 Re: Help me to purchase [buyer101]
Mar 24, 2010 (3:43 pm)
Buyer, I would say that was a very good deal, congrats!
#2588 of 3688 Re: Good Deal or bad deal [jets65]
Mar 24, 2010 (3:45 pm)
Hi Jets, I am not sure what your trade was worth so it is tough to assess. Sounds like a great deal with just the OTD price though!
#2589 of 3688 Re: Help me to purchase [mazdaduck]
Mar 24, 2010 (8:38 pm)
I ended up with $32,700 -$500 royalty + tax and registration ($2,349) + 0% 60 months. Also I got $2,300 trade in for my 2002 PT cruiser with 118000 miles. My PT Cruiser has tansmission problem. I was offered $900 for it at the other dealer. So I was happy when they offer $2,300 for it. Thanks for all of your advise. Ark
#2590 of 3688 Re: Help me to purchase [mazdaduck]
Mar 25, 2010 (4:40 am)
Thanks MD. I remember walking out the dealership with the keys in hand, thinking I could have squeezed another 200 - 300 out of the deal but was pretty satisfied with it overall.
#2591 of 3688 2010 CX-9 Touring AWD w/All weather mats, roof rails and remote start
Mar 25, 2010 (6:59 am)
I just purchased a liquid silver 2010 CX-9 Touring AWD w/All weather mats, roof rails and remote start. I was able to obtain a pin for the S-plan program, which really made things simple. With this plan, I was able to pay invoice (dealer cost not including holdback) for any car a dealer had on the lot (could not find a car elsewhere on this plan).
I ended up paying the following:
$30901 for the car (includes a $100 dollar fee for a runner to move my registration docs as I Iive in VT but purchased near Boston at Quirk Imports)
$1000 trade on '93 Jeep Grand Cherokee (above Kelly blue book trade- in value by ~$200)
$299 doc fee
OTD price: $32056.06 (I took 60 month 0% financing, so the $1000 cash incentive could not be combined).
For what it's worth, before I had the pin, I emailed 12 dealers in VT, NH, and MA for price quotes. Only three replied to me (I had specificied the exact car I was looking for in terms of trim, options, and color). Very dissappointing. Of the dealers that responded, two of them came in exactly $1000 over invoice and would not budge from there (the third was $2K over invoice). The only other difference was in the doc fee (ranged from 50 to 300). I don't think Mazda is having trouble selling these cars in the Northeast (North of Boston anyway) and if you can get a car around invoice you are doing well. I ended up going with the out of state dealer as they were the closest one with CX-9s matching our needs. In fact, only one CX-9 was found at both the VT dealers. Out here, I would be suprised if you could get them at invoice (you'd need a dealer with lots of inventory), but to get them to also cough up their holdback would be truly impressive.
Bottom line for me is I got a great car at invoice and couldn't be happier to be done with the experience (I hate the buying process...I'm glad I only do it once every six years or so).
Good luck to all as you shop around.
#2592 of 3688 Re: mazdaduck [mazdaduck]
Mar 25, 2010 (7:16 am)
I disagree with your assessment that I am providing "completely unrealistic" advice. I know that the deal is realistic because I actually purchased a vehicle earlier this week for $33,000 out the door, zero percent financing (that is a 2010 FWD Touring, with Moonroof Bose and Powerlift, and 3 miles on it).
Right, and if a person lives in an area where the CX-9 is a hot seller and inventory is low, that type of deal might not be obtainable, that is why I told that person that what you got might be totally unrealistic in his area. I'm dead on with my assessment.
For others like me who want to spend a weekend aggressively negotiating the best deal with multiple dealers, my advice might be helpful
Of couse it is. I never said it was not. It has been my experience that Internet shopping tends to lead to better deals then hard nose time consuming wheeling and dealing.
And, if dealers gave consumers "all the facts first" - as you put it - there would be no need for this forum.
Ehhh....I disagree there. Besides available inventory and incentives, what "facts" need to be told to a customer? I believe this thread is to help people get a good deal. It has nothing to do with how the automotive world operates, because quite frankly, unless you are nose deep in the every day operations of a dealership / manufacturer, you have no idea what goes on.
All in all, I do find this thread very useful to many people. There are several instances where prices in one area of the country are just not possible in an other area. Sadly, some people pass on a really good deal because the heard of someone across the country getting a even better one, and think they are getting ripped off. This thread has also led to unrealistic expectations as well. Sometimes, dealers will give a once in a lifetime special offer because they it may help them somewhere else, like perhaps taking in a really profitable trade, or stealing a deal from a competitive dealer. However, the customer who got this great deal thinks it's the norm and everyone should get it. Not always the case.
My advise has always been do the best you can. At the end of the day, don't buy the car if you are not happy. From what I have seen, almost everyone here has gotten a good deal.
#2593 of 3688 Re: mazdaduck [aviboy97]
Mar 25, 2010 (9:13 am)
I also want to buy a CX-9 AWD touring (nothing else). What's the resonable price? I went to one dealer closed by 12524, their price for touring AWD is 33,000. This number looks like a sticker price. Do you have any advice? Thanks a lot.
#2594 of 3688 Re: mazdaduck [misssophia]
Mar 25, 2010 (2:13 pm)
Hi Missophia, The invoice price after holdback on a 2010 CX-9 AWD Touring (with no added options or packages) is $29,682. Is the $33k out the door? It is even higher than the sticker of $32,705. That price is way high - it must have some options on it. If you are going with the zero percent financing, I would like to see you pay no more than $32,500 for this vehicle (a base AWD Touring) Out the Door (including all tax, dealer fees, etc.) So Aviboy doesn't get his "four-square" in a wad, please note that your price will vary by location and dealer inventory. My advice to you is keep shopping and get some quotes from other dealers.