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Mazda CX-9, Car Leasing, Car Buying, SUV
Aug 14, 2009 (7:08 pm)
Wanted to add a few comments after my deal "fell" thru today. I have posted my quote for a Touring AWD Bose/Moon of invoice 33600-4K-1K loyalty for a price of 28600. Called to check if still there yes, show up tomorrow you can have it for 28K even. Drove 2 hrs (Chicago burbs in rush hour) only to be told by a complete a -hole salesman that he sold it to another dealer and in so many words me, my wife and 4 month old to take a hike. I could go on, but won't ....so I went to the mothership dealer a couple of miles up the street (where my quote came from) talked to the quote guy and he was great tried to get me the deal, offered me 30K on a similar GT, called the owner of the dealership to try to get it done and they said it was traded for more that I was offering. Will give it to me for 29.3K I came back with 29K. No deal I walked over 300, but at that point it was the ethics and we got a bad vibe from the whole thing. I was not financing, had cash in hand, saw the CX-9 on the lot and was basically told....we don't want your money. This is my first brand new car purchase, so I was a little shocked to say the least. The lesson here for all of you is, if you want a 2009 with 4K-1K(loyalty) off of invoice jump on it. The internet guy at Community Mazda in Oak Forest IL will give you a great quote, but avoid the #^*hole salesman at all costs, they all know who he is. In fact stop by the community Pontiac GMC, pick up the internet quote guy and then go to the Mazda down the street. Hey that is my lesson for the day......
Aug 15, 2009 (3:45 am)
I think you are putting too much faith in the Internet quote guy. They all figured that you had driven so long that you'd take what they gave you. What you should take from this is if you find the car you want ANk for the sale paperwork to be over ighted to you so you can review and confirm vin. You got bait and switched
Aug 15, 2009 (5:02 am)
I totally agree.....lesson learned, I have no desire to do business with some one who operates like that. It is very true that the job of the internet quote guy is to get you there and then get the "real" deal done. If dealers wonder why we don't call them back and come in it is because of crap like this. It is great to shop price, but at the end of the day an honest upfront dealer is worth something in my book. I'll keep looking, hopefully something before the end of the Month.
For what it is worth. I don't know if I want to trust info from this guy, but they did say there will be no more 2009s as they have the 2010s ordered
#1929 of 3688 $4K rebate valid still?
Aug 15, 2009 (8:40 am)
Sorry about your experience keyseekr. I've been bait and switched a bunch of times. Everything from a certain color to an actual model. Once I inquired about an R32 at a VW dealership, was told it was available and when I got there they told me it was sold and tried to sell me a Tiburon coupe!
Is Mazda still offering the $4K rebate? My dealer is saying invoice minus $1500 only. Must be a regional thing. I'm in California. One dealer even quoted me MSRP minus the $1500 and didn't want to negotiate!
#1930 of 3688 Re: $4K rebate valid still? [sameem]
Aug 15, 2009 (8:17 pm)
Yeah it was more a bait and jerk you around. I was not really offered another car in the classical sense of the bait and switch, but they were sitting on about 10 CX-9s...it was just not what I expected.
R32 for a Tiburon.....humm let me think about that. Somebody must fall for these scams otherwise you think they would have gone away. To be honest as a long time basher of Hyundai (eX sell, he he!!), the new Genesis coupe is pretty cool, way better than any Tiburon.
Anyway a few phone calls I was able to "secure" a deal for the Touring AWD bose/moon for my original invoice 33600 - 4K rebate - 1K loyalty. This was a dealer that has a good rep and I hope things work out better, I have recd an email, text, fax with a quote and confirmation with vin and detailed price.
As far as the 4K discount I found it sort of an unadvertised special, some dealers were up front and others were not acknowledging that. We actually got higher priced quotes on the Sport models than most of the Touring which I thought was odd. Sport would work, but with a baby and dog (Read:food, dirt, puke etc..) leather is way better medium to clean.
This may get off on another topic, but I think the Touring a nice middle ground between Sport and the GT. I was not a fan of the GTs 20" wheels both the ride quality and what on earth does it cost to replace 4 20" tires? I'm sure 18" are not cheap, but other than the factory pimp look I just don't see the need for the 20. I plan to keep this car for a long time so that factors in to my thinking. I also was not fond of the GTs key card thing. I sorta like turning a key to start the car and also I like to lift the tailgate myself. It would take no time for me to indent the power rear hatch with my garage door. Navigation is cool, but please correct me if I am wrong, is it not in every factory nav equiped vehicle I have driven some lawyer screen that you have to "accept" prior to getting to the radio/nav controls, that makes sure you don't look at the screen while driving.......sorry that was my impression of the GT I drove and it stuck. The whole Big Brother feel of Nav screens scares me off.
#1931 of 3688 Purchased a FWD CX-9 GT in FL
Aug 16, 2009 (9:18 am)
I purchased a Blue/ Tan FWD CX-9 Grand Touring with the Moonroof, GT Assist Package, Towing Package, Roof Rails and Mud Flaps for $33,414 + TTL from Royal Palm Mazda in Royal Palm Beach on July 31st. Lehman Mazda in Miami quoted a price that was a few hundred dollars less, but they would have had to do a dealer trade for the vehicle we wanted and Miami is farther from where I live than Royal Palm Beach. Used PenFed for financing instead of Mazda's captive lender (Chase).
#1932 of 3688 Re: $4K rebate valid still? [keyseekr246]
Aug 17, 2009 (5:08 am)
to each his own, keyseekr, but there are a few errors in your tangential review of the GT:
- 20" wheels provide better handling but at the cost of exaggerated feel of bumps in the road (ie. best for smooth highways) plus they sure do look pimpy good =)
- with keyless start, you still do the "turn-the-key" motion but you don't actually have to put in any key. (it's not a push-button like in nissan, lexus, infinitis)
- power tailgate: you CAN open and close the tailgate yourself if you want, but at least you can CHOOSE to do it with the power (eg. when you have a whole cart full of groceries and 2 toddlers you need to hold hands with) - nice feature in my opinion
- NAV: you don't really have to look much at the nav screen since the voice commands tell u what to do as well, but considering how much people's eyes wander on the road with cell phones and other gadgets, i think having nav is not the safety risk you make it out to be. bluetooth helps a lot as well.
again, to each his own...your opinion is legit and i think the Touring is for you....but since this is a public forum, i didn't want people who were considering GT vs Touring to be misled.
#1933 of 3688 Re: Is this deal any good? [slingha]
Aug 17, 2009 (8:01 pm)
I'm looking for GT with the exact options you obtained. I'm in NYC and just got 5 email "quotes" from regional dealers but in reality none of them were quotes, just attempts to get me into the dealership.
Would you mind letting me know who you worked with at Scott Mazda to get yours? My email address is in my profile. I'd prefer work with a recommendation from here instead of a random dealer solicitations. Thanks!
#1934 of 3688 Re: $4K rebate valid still? [jcpharm]
Aug 18, 2009 (6:47 pm)
JC, you bring up some good points, despite the nomenclature there are really way more differences between the Touring and GT than the Touring and Sport. Honestly we were going for the Sport, but with a baby and Labrador we have found that leather is easier to keep clean. That is really the only substantial difference between Tour/Spt, you can get the power heated seat/mirror in a package on the Sport and then you are pretty close to having the same equipment.
I have to come clean and say that the GT we looked at was used from Carmax and the guy didn't know how it all worked (never got the tailgate to power open) so I am afraid that first impression sort of stuck with me. Wife thought the 20" ride was too firm, which is probably the most consistent comment that I have seen in the reviews of the GT.
We actually picked up a Touring last night: AWD Bose/Moon White Pearl with the Sand Leather. We had to drive up to Milwaukee, but it was what we wanted. Invoice 33600-4K rebate -1K loyalty so 28600. Seems like a good deal where the sticker was 36025 and there were very few White Touring AWD in the area so we wanted to act before they were gone or we had to drive even further.
There are actually a couple things that would be nice to have as an option that are only on the GT and that is the memory seats and the Blind spot monitor would be nice. I also don't understand, and this may just be a rant against foreign cars in general, but why can they not make auto on off headlights standard ?(GT only). Not sure if this is just a preference in the US, but funny how most GM cars from the late 90s (Beretta, Grand Prix, Alero we have owned) have had these.
This may have been covered else where, but from the literature the CX-9 headlights for Sport=Manual/Touring=Auto Off/ GT=Auto off&on seems like it would be more cost effective to be uniform for this sort of thing, but hey I don't make cars for a living so I am sure there is a reason.
I wish luck to everyone out there looking. I appreciate the feedback from this forum and hope everyone finds what they are looking for.....
#1935 of 3688 So to confirm, there is currently a $4000 incentive
Aug 18, 2009 (9:39 pm)
Just wanted to make sure I understand what I've been reading ... there is a $4000 dealer incentive, and that is in addition to the $1500 customer cash? I don't want to sound like I'm smoking crack when I walk into the dealer... What I'm looking at is a CX-9 Touring FWD with MSRP of $31,715 and invoice per Edmunds of $29,349. Incentives of $4000 and $1500, then add back $750 destination, plus $172 for the Crystal White Pearl paint bringing the total to $24771. Does that sound about right???
Only things I'd add are Remote Engine Start and burglar alarm options.