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CX-9 vs. MDX - Spent a weekend with both. - long by robjamell
Nov 25, 2008 (4:42 pm)
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I recently had a loaner MDX w/tech package for the weekend and then had a CX9- Grand Touring AWD with GT assist for the following weekend.
 
This board has been helpful to me so I wanted to give back. These are JUST my opinions.
 
Styling:
MDX wins from the front and CX9 wins from the side and rear.
 
Interior:
MDX's leather is much more supple and overall materials are of a higher grade. Even though the MDX measure's wider, the CX9 feels more spacious overall. The sliding second row in the CX9 allows for much easier access to the third row. The CX9's center console is much more useful including the cupholder's position being more natural. The MDX has a LATCH for the center position of the center row.
 
Controls:
The MDX's controls are very cluttered and difficult to get used to. You must always take your eyes off the road in order to operate including some of the steering wheel controls. The CX9's dash and steering wheel controls are much more intuitive. The rear climate control seems to work better in the CX9. The MDX's aire points right at my daughter's car seat and gives her a chill.
 
Navigation:
The CX9's navigation has all fo the goodies, however I prefered the touch screen and cx9's simplicity. The MDX seemed "too" integrated. I do like that on the MDX you can use all of its functions while moving and not being locked out by the navigation. The MDX's backup camera seems to have a slightly clearer picture.
 
Ride/Handling:
The MDX feels much more sure footed overall. It feels similar to a BMW. There are times when certain bumps seem harsh, but overall it is a great compromise. The steering feel is also excellent. The CX9's 20" wheels tend to produce a more bouncy ride overall, but never harsh. The CX9's steering is somewhat light and very light at times, almost to the point where an uneven surface in the road moves the steering wheel if you are holding with one hand at the 12o'clock position. The MDX's handling is impresseive.
 
Engine:
The MDX feels a bit quicker under foot to the floor acceleration, but during daily driving the extra gear seems to make the CX9 just feel right. There were times with the MDX where it felt like it needed to downshift and then hunted for a gear. Both engines seemed equally quiet.
 
Drive:
The MDX might have slightly less wind noise, but hard to tell. I like the higher seating position of the CX9. The blind spot monitor works well in cx9. Them MDX feels a bit hard to see out of when looking rearward.
 
Value:
If you do the calculation including an $8k discount on MDX and $10k discount on CX9 and then take into account resale value and the difference in premium gas cost, the MDX cost about $1500 more over 3 years of ownership.
 
So what am I buying? I am buying a CX9. I can't totally explain it, but I just like the simplicity of the controls, the styling, visibility, and for some reason I just feel more relaxed when driving it.
 
Hope this helps someone.
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Re: CX-9 vs. MDX - Spent a weekend with both. - long [robjamell] by derrickson
Nov 26, 2008 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: robjamell (Nov 25, 2008 4:42 pm)

Thanks for the comparison. Personally, you had me at "$10k discount on CX9..."
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Current pricing by rerodgers
Nov 26, 2008 (9:01 am)
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I am negotiating for a CX-9 GT AWD. For 2008's they are taking $10K off the MSRP. Currently mazda is offering 0% financing for 60 months. I am not sure if you can get both. I am not sure why not. One is a secret incentive to dealers to move the 2008's off the lot and the other is an incentive to the consumer. It is not a cash rebate or 0% financing. Totally different. I got one qout that was about $5K off an 2008 and the dealer said that they have 0% financing. So that tells me you should be able to get both. Mazda's website doesn't say anything about a cash rebate offer and only getting one or the other. If you can get both, then i think you can get a great deal on a 2008. For the 2009's. I am looking to lease and it looks like you can get $5k off a 2009 plus a $1250 mazda lease incentive which translates into a decent lease deal on a newer car. I will let you know how it goes.
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Re: Current pricing [rerodgers] by nswartzb
Nov 26, 2008 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: rerodgers (Nov 26, 2008 9:01 am)

NO, NO, NO
read all of the posts on this thread making clear that you can not get: (1) ~$7500(base)-~$10000(GT) off MSRP and, (2) 0% financing.
you are living in a dream world if you think you can get both.
that is why the dealer that offered you 0% was only giving $5000 off MSRP.
 
$7500-$10000 off MSRP, OR $2500-$5000 off MSRP AND 0% financing are very, very good deals.
if you hold out for much more than that, you likely won't have any luck -- unless you get ripped on a trade, get a demo, pick up a fluke customized car where the deal fell through (e.g. aftermarket DVD player, leather), etc.
 
PS be sure to look at the details on the lease on a 2009 -- even though you say you are getting $5K + $1.25K off MSRP, you may be getting whacked with a not-so-great money-factor(i.e. interest), amount down, and/or limited mileage. just make sure you'r comparing apples to apples. especially if you are holding onto the car for any length of time, i find it hard to believe that a 2009 would be a better deal, and there virtually no differences btwn 2008 and 2009.
 
best of luck.
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Re: Current pricing [nswartzb] by rerodgers
Nov 26, 2008 (12:20 pm)
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Replying to: nswartzb (Nov 26, 2008 11:26 am)

Thanks for the reply. Hard to read through all 72 pages in this thread. You are right, you only get one, not both. But what i did get is 9K off with my own financing or 4250 off with the 0% financing. For me, it looks like the 9K off is a better deal. I can get a decent loan rate for 60 months. Its close, but about a $5 different in payment of the 60 month term. I see that other people have gotten $10K off MSRP.
 
My dealer has I think if i remember correctly (test drove a lot of cars) $5K off the 2009's. Mazda has a current lease deal with no security deposit and 1250 cash incentive thru chase bank for 2009 leases. Again, not sure I can get both and I don't know what the money factor will be for a 15K mile lease. I realize a lease and loan are not apples to apples.
 
I will let everyone know.
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Re: Current pricing [nswartzb] by aviboy97
Nov 26, 2008 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: nswartzb (Nov 26, 2008 11:26 am)

I don't see how he is going to get $5,000 off to lease an 09 CX-9. First, there is not enough mark up, and the lease rebate is only $1,250. Dealers are not swamped in 09's either. Inventory is very slim on 09's, plus they have updated features like fuel computer and an updated nav system which are pretty desirable right now. No dealer in their right mind will give you $5,000 off. I don't see how they can do it. I know I can't.
 
If he was to buy the 09, there is only a $1,000 dealer engagement (sort of a rebate), not $4,250 like the 08's.
 
As for leasing, Chase sets the money factor. Unlike when Mazda was doing the lease, the dealer cannot mark up the money factor. The money factor is actually really good on the 09's. 24 month lease is 0.00100 and 36 months is 0.00093
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Re: Current pricing [aviboy97] by rerodgers
Nov 26, 2008 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 26, 2008 12:25 pm)

Thanks. I am waiting to hear back about the 2009 lease deal. I agree, not sure how they will take $5K off an 09. What is the current 36 month MF for chase? Do you know?
 
Thanks
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Re: Current pricing [rerodgers] by aviboy97
Nov 26, 2008 (12:33 pm)
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Replying to: rerodgers (Nov 26, 2008 12:31 pm)

36 months is 0.00093 = 2.2%
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Re: Current pricing [aviboy97] by rerodgers
Nov 26, 2008 (12:35 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 26, 2008 12:33 pm)

sorry, you had it in your previos post. Somehow i missed it. My eye might be going. Whats the residual for a 36 mo 15k lease.
 
Thanks
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Re: Current pricing [rerodgers] by aviboy97
Nov 26, 2008 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: rerodgers (Nov 26, 2008 12:35 pm)

50% for Sport & Touring
48% for Grand Touring

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