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Mazda CX-9 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: Solid Price? [kartdad] by aviboy97
Nov 04, 2008 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: kartdad (Nov 04, 2008 8:55 am)

Could probably get some of that dealer cash and 0% if I was sitting down, ready to buy right now, but still not that great
 
The dealer gets no dealer cash if you take 0%. So, no cash to give if you want 0%.
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Re: fuel chip [buzzly] by ceric
Nov 04, 2008 (3:26 pm)
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Replying to: buzzly (Oct 26, 2008 7:33 am)

But you can't have higher HP and higher MPG. Physically, it is not possible
 
It is possible. It is called "direct injection" (in contrast to port injection we have on CX9) => 10% torque increase and 5+% better MPG.
DI is available on many high-end vehicles already. Such technology will propagate down to lower end vehicle...
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Re: fuel chip [ceric] by aviboy97
Nov 04, 2008 (7:52 pm)
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Replying to: ceric (Nov 04, 2008 3:26 pm)

Mazda has been using DI for 3 years already. I have no idea why it's not in the CX-9, or every other Mazda if it works so well....
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Trade-in values? by 4kids3dogs2cat
Nov 05, 2008 (11:13 am)
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Which pricing source are dealers using these days for trade-ins? I always get wildly different prices from Kelly, NADA and Edmunds. For example, my 2004 Sienna XLE AWD w/ 55K miles and DVD has quotes from 9.5K to 10.5K for Kelly, 12-13K for NADA and 15K for Edmunds. Which is right? I recall used car managers at dealers used to use the Galves book, but I don't know if that source is still around. Thanks.
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Re: Trade-in values? [4kids3dogs2cat] by aviboy97
Nov 05, 2008 (11:25 am)
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Replying to: 4kids3dogs2cat (Nov 05, 2008 11:13 am)

I recall used car managers at dealers used to use the Galves book, but I don't know if that source is still around
 
You have a good memory. Galves, in most of the country, is the set standard values. KBB, Edmunds, NADA are all publishing companies that are not in the auto industry. That does not mean that it's not possible to get one of their values for you trade, because there are always exceptions. However, their values are generally considered worthless.
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Re: Trade-in values? [aviboy97] by ceric
Nov 05, 2008 (4:11 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 05, 2008 11:25 am)

It depends on dealers. The dealer I bought my CX9 from used edmunds.com (trade-in/good condition) for my Odyssey (EX-NAVI, 2001 with 78K). I got it for $8.5K. This was back in Jan, 2008. Good condition trade-ins will be cleaned up and sold at used car department. Others will be sent to auction.
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Re: Trade-in values? [ceric] by aviboy97
Nov 07, 2008 (1:28 pm)
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Replying to: ceric (Nov 05, 2008 4:11 pm)

It depends on dealers.
 
As I mentioned, there are always acceptions.
 
 If a dealer can retail a vehicle they take on trade, they will be more willing to give you more to make a deal. If the car you are trading is a wholesale piece, room for negotiation on your trade becomes very slim.
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LOL by truth_speaker
Nov 08, 2008 (10:49 am)
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Good Afternoon,
 
I want you people to realize that it is websites like this that have put the automotive industry on it's knees.
 
Some people are happy letting the dealers make a bit of profit....from what I have read on these forums, you folks are not.
 
In fact, if there were prizes on this site, they would go to the members who caused the most loss to their dealer.
 
It is truly amazing how terrible some people are.
 
I was reading a post where a guy got almost $10,000 off of one of these CX-9's and walked away from the deal...do you seriously think the dealer can do better???
 
And if they could, how much better??? 1-200 bucks??? Yeah, screw the local small businesses and shop elsewhere, who cares if we run into these folks around town....you just sold them up the river for a couple hundred bucks.
 
What is this country coming to with a bunch of people hiding behind their computers and coming up with these "whoever gives me the best deal WINS my business" games? Sending fake phone numbers to dealerships and not responding to emails. Believe me, you're no prize.
 
If you need anything else, let me know.
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Re: LOL [truth_speaker] by armjamil
Nov 08, 2008 (11:04 am)
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Replying to: truth_speaker (Nov 08, 2008 10:49 am)

It sounds like you're an owner of a dealership.
I hate to break this news to you that for years the dealerships have prayed on innocent people, overcharging them and putting them in cars that they can't afford in the first place. Again even if they don't make money upfront selling a car, they do make money off of the loan interest.
It is time for us (innocent people) to return the favor.. that is all.
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Re: LOL [truth_speaker] by aviboy97
Nov 08, 2008 (1:02 pm)
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Replying to: truth_speaker (Nov 08, 2008 10:49 am)

Well, I agree with some of what you said, and some I disagree with.
 
First, there are those here who don't mind dealers making profit. Not every person here is a money sucking leach.
 
I was reading a post where a guy got almost $10,000 off of one of these CX-9's and walked away from the deal...do you seriously think the dealer can do better???
 
That is because the dealer did not do it's job and build value in what they were selling. Once the discussion completely revolves around $$ and not the car, the dealership looses any chance they have of making a single penny. Those people who did buy at around $10,000 realize what a uncommon deal that is. The average discount on these CX-9's are around $6,000-$7,000.
 
sending fake phone numbers to dealerships and not responding to emails. Believe me, you're no prize.
 
Well, that's part of the Internet Sales business. There are those who don't feel comfortable talking face to face and feel they have the advantage over negotiations when they contact you that way. I agree, they are no prize, and they also tend to give you the worst customer satisfaction surveys. But, they are not the majority.
 
I do not know how long you have been in the car business, but, not too long ago, dealers were making money hand over fist and chopping everyone's head off on every deal. The tables have turned my friend. The good salesmen still know how to make money.

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