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Mazda CX-9 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: 2008 Touring - need advice [paulo6] by derrickson
Oct 26, 2008 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: paulo6 (Oct 26, 2008 7:49 am)

fyi paulo... i too am am eligible for ford supplier pricing (x plan / s-plan for mazdas), but forgot to mention it when i purchased a couple weeks ago. as you mentioned, the s-plan amt is basically the delta btwn msrp & invoice, or $1500-2000.
 
What you might consider (and what i wish i would have done) is determine the discounts you're getting, and add on the s-plan. I believe you're entitled to other promos / discounts IN ADDITION TO the s-plan price. think i read that on the ford partner site.
 
of course, they can always refuse to give you s-plan plus other discounts, but you never know unless you ask! which i did not
 
regarding being ...put in the position of selling at a loss because i'm forced to...
 
i don't know that dealers are being 'forced' to do anything. i know with my experience, the dealers i contacted and negotiated with were several thousand dollars apart. at 1st, i was amazed. didn't matter that dealer X was offering the same vehicle for $X thousand less, etc. other dealers simply said they could not get there. perhaps b/c they would be selling at a loss?
 
Through this thread, I then learned about the various sales tiers, month end / year end bonuses for meeting sales quotas, and how that can translate to the different dealer offers...
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Re: 2008 Touring - need advice [nswartzb] by aviboy97
Oct 26, 2008 (12:04 pm)
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Replying to: nswartzb (Oct 26, 2008 6:56 am)

you are currently getting "invoice" (which, despite its name, still has dealer profit in it) and cash back.
you be able to get up to another $2500-3000 IF:
(1) dealer will take more off "invoice" (maybe up to $1000)
(2) dealer gets and gives you the bonus money he gets for meeting sales goals (up to $2000)

 
Can you please post your source of how you know what the dealer makes from the manufacturer? You are way off, BTW.
 
This must be fact, not opinion. Also, since every manufacturer is different, please do not use another manufacturer as a guideline.
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Re: 2008 Touring - need advice [aviboy97] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 26, 2008 (12:41 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 26, 2008 12:04 pm)

So... do you have the information?
 
If so, spill it!!
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Re: 2008 Touring - need advice [kyfdx] by aviboy97
Oct 26, 2008 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 26, 2008 12:41 pm)

I do, however, I am not going to say
 
While it's no secret that the dealer makes incentive money from the manufacturer (Mazda), it does not even come close to $3,000 per copy. Heck, holdback is paid in hundreds.
 
Since this thread is meant to helpful to those buying a CX-9, thinking that dealers are making money hand over fist even selling these thing below invoice is just simply wrong. There is not as much money in these as some people think.
 
As a customer, you should always try and get the lowest price you can. There is nothing wrong with that.
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Re: 2008 Touring - need advice [aviboy97] by storrnyc
Oct 27, 2008 (8:27 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 26, 2008 6:07 pm)

...one of the lamest posts i have seen on a forum in a long while.
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Re: 2008 Touring - need advice [storrnyc] by aviboy97
Oct 27, 2008 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: storrnyc (Oct 27, 2008 8:27 am)

.....and your post is just sooooo descriptive as to why.
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2008 Touring Cx7- Fog Lamp Installation by fishhoppa
Oct 27, 2008 (2:28 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 27, 2008 9:21 am)

Hi Aviboy97,
 
Would you know what the approx labor $ would be to have Mazda service install the OEM fog lamps for an 08 cx-7?
 
I've been quoted two wildly different labor costs from two local dealers. Dealer A quoted $200 and Dealer B quoted $365. Both dealer service centers admitted to never having done this installation before, so should I be wary? Thanks!
 
***whoops...just realized I posted in the cx-9 forum by mistake. Sorry!!**
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Re: 2008 Touring - need advice [aviboy97] by seloo
Oct 27, 2008 (3:54 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 26, 2008 6:07 pm)

Aviboy,
 
Do you work at a car dealership?
 
Let's be honest, here is where the dealership makes its money:
 
uninformed customers (big profit margin)
 
somewhat informed customers (good profit margin)
 
informed customer (some profit margin)
 
savvy customer (little to no profit margin)
 
Additionally, most dealers average $1500 on each used car.
 
With all the factory to dealer cash and sales bonuses, it all averages out or they would not keep the doors open!
 
Do not forget the profits from financing, extended warranties, parts, service, paint and body, etc...
 
It was not too long ago that dealers were getting close to MSRP for a CX-9.
 
Dealers must take the good along with the bad!
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Re: 2008 Touring - need advice [seloo] by aviboy97
Oct 27, 2008 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Oct 27, 2008 3:54 pm)

I would like to clarify that my post was only directed towards the profit margin on a single CX-9. This discussion is not about, or intended for how a dealership earns money, and how that money is made.
 
With the current market, all those departments you mentioned take a hit. Earnings all over are down. To make it back up starts in the sales department. That is why mostly all of you looking to buy a CX-9 for $10K off MSRP are not having luck, because the money is just not there.
 
A real business never survives by taking money from other departments in the business. They all need to make money.
 
Until Obama takes the White House, we are sill a Capitalist nation, and this is how business is done.
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Re: 2008 Touring - need advice [aviboy97] by nastacio
Oct 28, 2008 (5:11 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 27, 2008 7:40 pm)

Unfortunately it seems that capitalism is exacting its harsher lessons on retail outlets. At least where I live, the demand just isn't there, and the "asset" sitting on the lot is not only depreciating but it is also a cost center after a few months.
 
It is not about whether the incentives are there to back a $10K discount, it is about whether it is better to lose $2K on October or risking losing $2K and interest by February, unless anyone thinks a consumer will be any more inclined to shell *more* money on a year-old unit by then than they are willing to spend on a current year model now.
 
I don't like seeing businesses selling inventory below cost, in the long run it hurts us all, nor I like being offered $6K off Kelley Blue Blook on a $19K trade, but as you pointed out, that is how capitalism works (for us not in the inner circles of banking and politics.)
 
I hope you make up on 3s, 5s, and 6s, because the bleeding on CX-9s 08s will continue for several more months.

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