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#1114 of 1788
$10,000 off MSRP by ceric
Sep 07, 2008 (12:07 am)
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Saw newspaper ads today.
Menlo Mazda. $10,000 off MSRP for 2008 CX9s ( including $4000 factory rebate )
(SF Bay Area)
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Re: Dealer declining their own quote [vinnyny] by nswartzb
Sep 07, 2008 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: vinnyny (Sep 06, 2008 7:04 pm)

next time, make sure you have the sales person confirm in an email that he has offered and you have accepted a specific car (use the car's VIN #) for a specific price. make clear that the sales price includes everything except mandatory government fees (taxes. taqgs) and there will be no other dealer fees. also be sure to make sure to list any options that the dealer is installing that are not already on the car (rails, cargo tray, etc.). finally, you can also offer to make a credit card downpayment ($500-$1000) -- i'd used american express. if you do all of the above, you will have an electronically signed contract for sale of a car, and the manager will not be able to back out of the contract. it takes a little bit of extra time on the phone/email, but it saves a lot of hassle at the dealer -- make sure to print a copy of the emails when you go to the dealer.
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May not pay to hold out for 10 grand off by s1216
Sep 08, 2008 (1:29 pm)
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How good of a deal you are going to get depends on what configuration of car you want. As the supply is slowly dwindling, sand leather interiors and units without sunroofs are becoming scarce. On the other hand if you want (or will accept) outrageously priced boondoggles such as the navigation system or DVD player, you are going to have folks fighting for your business.
 
Go to the Mazda website and chose build a car. This will allow you to search for dealers who have the color and option combinations you can tolerate. The next step is to contact the dealers and ask them for a price. Create a spreadsheet to keep it all straight as it gets complex comparing cars with different options and it is easy to lose perspective on how good (or bad) a particular deal is. You can search in a 250 mile radius. You can extend this by stating you live in another town and starting the process over. Once the bids start rolling in, don’t be shy about using them against each other, keeping in mind that occasionally multiple dealerships in the same region have the same ownership even though they may not be explicitly branded as such. Some dealers will deliver for free, some will charge a small fee. You can get a car delivered by a third party for between about $350 to $1000, see ebay auto as a starting point for details on how this works. If you are asking for a quote from a dealer you are not willing to travel to, the delivery options need to be part of the initial query or else you are not being fair to that dealer by getting a quote when you are not serious.
 
The larger the dealer, the better your chances are at a great price because the volume credits are complex and have multiple tiers. If you shop properly, the odds of a smaller dealership winning your bid are not good. The people living in the Northeast, and parts of California have a big advantage here (perhaps Chicago, Atlanta, Dallas, etc too).
 
I don’t know if anyone had the chance to investigate the interesting autobarn post, unfortunately their stock didn’t match my requirements. I suppose they could have something not listed in their inventory but with some many dealers to talk to and the fact that they were far from me I had to draw the line somewhere. The odds are very slim of getting your best deal on a location, you need to find out who has the car they are trying to trade for and deal with them directly.
 
I have seen several posts of “$10,000 off” but these seem under close investigation that they are either teaser units or other special circumstance. For instance, Sutherland in Atlanta was doing $10,000 off, but this was on a group of oddball Sport models that had leather added. Not to say this wasn’t a tremendous deal, just that it did not apply to the whole lot (Sutherland is still pretty strong on their pricing). As stated before you may hit this number if you are enough of a sucker to pay a couple of g’s for a navigation system that can be smoked by a $250 Garmin.
 
You can try for $10,000, but someone shoot me down if I am wrong, I think $8500 off is a realistic goal for most of us. Be prepared to jump on one at that discount if you really want the car.
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Re: May not pay to hold out for 10 grand off [s1216] by derrickson
Sep 08, 2008 (1:56 pm)
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Replying to: s1216 (Sep 08, 2008 1:29 pm)

Lots of helpful info s1216! The method for obtaining pricing you describe has been used for other vehicles as well. In the Honda Odyssey forum, it even has a name..."the Donkeypunch Method"!
 
I agree with most everything you say. Unlike you though, I have NOT seen 1) supply slowly dwindling, 2) units becoming scarce, or 3) having to hit the number by being a sucker.
 
I currently have emails from a couple Internet Mgrs offering $9K off on ANY in-stock 2008 CX-9. Both dealers have several models: Sports, Tourings, and GT's. I've been monitoring their inventory, and many of these units have been in-stock for several months, if not longer.
 
For me, it does pay to hold out for $10K -- Several dealers offered $10K off '08 units during Labor Day weekend, and personally, I'm not getting too excited about taking ownership of a vehicle that gets 15 MPG in the city! If they fly off the lots, so be it! I'm happy to continue driving my old Volvo till the wheels fall off.
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Re: May not pay to hold out for 10 grand off [derrickson] by s1216
Sep 08, 2008 (4:22 pm)
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Replying to: derrickson (Sep 08, 2008 1:56 pm)

"Scarce" may be too strong a word. Whether supply is dwindling I guess depends a lot on what you are looking for. I don't have access to any special information but I can just tell you what I have observed in the mid south over the last month. The particular vehicle I was looking for black/sand FWD GT with as few options as possible - I saw them vanishing before my eyes. Several of them I inquired about were sold. The ones without a sunroof are for the most part, history. Dealers seem to have a ton of black leather. I had multiple dealers ignore my request for sand leather and try and quote black.
 
I don't think the 41k+ models are moving at all - even now.
 
Other than the oddball Sports from Sutherland, I don't recall hearing a bona-fide account of a CX-9 going for close to 10k off unless it was loaded up with expensive options. If someone is taking on $6000 MSRP in options to get another $1500 off, short of those that REALLY wanted those options... the math is not favorable.
 
If someone out there got 10k of a unit in high demand it would be helpful to hear about it.
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Re: May not pay to hold out for 10 grand off [s1216] by ceric
Sep 08, 2008 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: s1216 (Sep 08, 2008 1:29 pm)

s1216,
if you are enough of a sucker to pay a couple of g’s for a navigation system that can be smoked by a $250 Garmin.
 
May I ask what do you think will happen to your loosely installed $250 Garmin in the event of a serious crash? Will it become a projectile that hurt passengers in your vehicle?
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Re: May not pay to hold out for 10 grand off [s1216] by derrickson
Sep 08, 2008 (9:04 pm)
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Replying to: s1216 (Sep 08, 2008 4:22 pm)

The particular vehicle I was looking for black/sand FWD GT with as few options as possible - I saw them vanishing before my eyes.
 
s1216... I see several of these available in the Houston area. Check it out!
 
link to your vehicle
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Re: May not pay to hold out for 10 grand off [ceric] by s1216
Sep 08, 2008 (9:19 pm)
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Replying to: ceric (Sep 08, 2008 6:26 pm)

Ceric
May I ask what do you think will happen to your loosely installed $250 Garmin in the event of a serious crash? Will it become a projectile that hurt passengers in your vehicle?
 
I guess that is the risk you take with any loose object in a vehicle. If I was concerned about this I would just do without a navigation unit rather than pay $2500 MSRP for one that gives bad directions.
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Re: May not pay to hold out for 10 grand off [s1216] by sleepybubba
Sep 09, 2008 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: s1216 (Sep 08, 2008 1:29 pm)

s1216: most of your blurb is either nonsense, or blunt rehashing of what has been said here before.
 
If you want an actual information from the people who actually got a deal; just take time to read the last 5-6 pages of this thread and you will see that most if not all answers will be there already.
 
The method that s1216 suggested has been discussed many times before, including this particular forum. It has been in all threads of CarSpace forums. This method didn't work for me personally as none of the dealers in the area could match the deal I was offered by Metro Mazda. Later on, as I learned, dealers got much more agreeable after they learned about the legitimacy of the deal I got.
  
The statement about the "the larger the dealer, the better your chances..." is utterly wrong. You will have much better chances with mid-size dealerships that struggle to meet its sales goal. While the large dealers have enough sale volume to decline any out-of the ordinary offer, the small dealers simply cannot afford an extra manufacturer's incentives for high-volume selling and as such, cannot offer you any extras to top off the manufacturer's rebate.
 
The statement about a dealer "not" having something in their inventory is total nonsense. All new dealers' inventory is 100% trackable through mazdausa.com; if you can't find a given car through the web site, the chances are either the car is already under some sort of an agreement or sold, or not new. From my recollection, even the Demos must be listed under dealers' new inventory, but this needs to be verified.
 
And, finally, the blurb about "a teaser units, or other special circumstance" is a bunch of bolonies. After I got my car with $10,400 discount and reported it on this and couple other forums there were several other people who were able to get the same (or better) deal after my post. The better deal could've been gotten when they got the car with more options. I guess the consensus is this: the more options your car have, the more wiggle room dealer has for offering you.
 
The truth is: with enough persistense and with losing a "new-car fever" you should be able to secure a deal you want, including a 10,000 off.

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