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I was just wondering if anybody knows if Mitsu and Hyundai are sharing the 3.8 V6 and 2.0 I4 Turbo engines? I know that the 3.8 in the current Mitsu's sold in the US has an aluminum head/iron block and the Hyundai uses an aluminum head/block but is it the "same engine". Also, Hyndai isn't known for turbos so, maybe that's a 4B11 unit that's in the base Genisis Coupe? I do remember that the 2.4 I4 was co-devloped my Mitsu/Hyundai/Chrysler. Hey Oldfarmer, I just noticed that "Mitsubishi" does not appear anywhere on the exterior of the current generation Eclipse. I thought is was just a leftover from a few years back when Mitsu was trying to push "emblem idenity". (Sort of like everyone knows that the circled T is the Toyota emblem). I don't think this is the case with the Eclipse though. After looking at the car for sometime yesterday, it came to me that it has too many curves for the upright "MITSUBISHI" plate.
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Replying to: mikevegas06 (Mar 04, 2009 4:17 am) I was wondering that myself. If I recall, the 3.8 that Mitsu uses is a variation of a long standing engine. There is a good description of this family on Wikipedia. They say that this engine has been built in configurations with 2.0 to 3.8 liters all with a cast iron block. While I can't be sure, I doubt the Mitsu and Hyundai engines are the same. Hyundai gets over 300hp out of their's in the Genesis Coupe while my Eclipse only gets 263hp. Doesn't seem like they are likely to be the same plant. "...Hey Oldfarmer, I just noticed..." Yeah, that's true. "Mitsubishi" doesn't appear on the Eclipse. Perhaps it's because as they were bringing out the new model they were just coming off some scandals and didn't want to queer the sales environment. Your observations are echoed by the Edmunds test team during their long term test of the Eclipse. I actually like that fact as it doesn't give the Mitsu bashers anything to gripe about and it gives my car an air of mystery (one guy thought it was a Porsche). |
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Mitsubishi Closes West Coast Design Studio
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Replying to: steve_ (Mar 06, 2009 10:29 am) I remember reading when Mitsu finally separated from Daimler Chrysler they retired the designer, French guy, can't remember his name, who had designed the jutting schnoz used on the 04-07 Outlanders, Lancers and Diamantes. ( He had been picked for the job by Daimler I believe ) After that unfortunate chapter the company went with their designs from Japan R & D for the new Outlanders and Lancers. Same bunch came up with the redesigned Colts, pickups and all the MiEV concepts too. I have to say, again, just my opinion, that the newer stuff in the last year or two, along with the concepts, are some of the coolest looking cars this company has ever put out. Btw, the article didn't mention that Mitsubishi also closed their European R & D center as well. Basically another unfortunate cost cutting move amid tough times.
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Replying to: elgatoloco (Mar 06, 2009 2:51 pm) I really hope that the Eclipse makes it. I know that sales are lack luster right now, but that name plate seems to be very valuable imo. I understand that the Evo is king, but some of us would surely like to have a beastly coupe to aspire to one day. I'd love to see a coupe version of the Lancer Ralliart. Seems like that would make a very good Eclipse. Not sure how much re-tooling is needed for such a change though. |
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"In 2006 Mitsubishi's U.S. sales totaled 118,558 and 128,993 in 2007, which was Mitsubishi's best year in the U.S. since 2004. But with the U.S. economy plunging in the second half of 2008, Mitsubishi's full-year sales slid to 97,257, a 24.6-percent dive compared with 2007, according to data from Edmunds.com, which also indicated Mitsubishi ceded 0.1-percent of U.S. market share from 2007 to 2008." Subaru and Mitsubishi Among Japanese Makers Seeking Government Loans (AutoObserver)
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Replying to: steve_ (Mar 10, 2009 10:34 am) |
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In Europe, Japanese automaker Mitsubishi announced plans to restructure that including moving its corporate headquarters and eliminating jobs. Mitsubishi Restructures in Europe (AutoObserver) |
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