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Replying to: mikevegas06 (Feb 10, 2008 8:05 am) Good point. But at least that is an effort to change the car itself rather than just the look of the car. My problem with Mitsu's efforts is that the criticism of the Eclipse by enthusiasts has been very consistent, they fault the engine, the handling and the weight. I've never heard anyone bashing the looks. |
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tough crowd. 
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Feb 10, 2008 3:24 pm) Just tough love. 
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I wanna share something with you's. Take a look at this Mitsubishi link. It tells a lot about the company we have given a bunch of our cash to. Notably their intense love for racing their vehicles and not only racing them, but winning the races. I like that racing heritage and the fact that they engineer in changes from things they learn on the racecourse. Check out the different decades and what has happened in each of them. Note the original Mitsubishi motor car in production came out in 1917 and was based on a Fiat not a Ford, this being strange because of the Henry name designation Mitsubishi gave it. The write-up says that Mitsu learned from Italian Fiat because they were huge and out ahead of everyone else(in their humble opinions, of course)in the 1910-1920 time period. Humm, that was news to me but looking at the early Ford's and Oldsmobile's maybe that is truth. Check it out--I think you'll enjoy the read. http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/corporate/museum/e/index.html
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I noticed something strange when I looked at my Eclipse registration. It say the weight is 3381. All the media says the Eclipse GT weighs between 3472 and 3528 depending on which source you use. I can't figure where the extra weight went unless the reviewers were counting the weight of a full gas tank. Iluv, do you see any difference in your Lancer's weight between published and actual figures? The only reason this is of interest to me is that the Eclipse has been bashed because of it's weight. I'd hate to think the auto press was making up numbers. 
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hey, I'll pop in to my glovebox and look at the weight on my Lancer's registration later today. We're doing some yardwork so I'll check it out a tad later. Kind of interesting, though, I forget what the press has said my '08 Lancer GTS weighs. That shouldn't be hard to find online with all of the reviews I've bookmarked on the '08 Lancer in my 'Favorites.' I'll check it out and get back on here to let you know. I know that the day before yesterday we drove to Sierra Vista, AZ, and it was very windy on the freeway. The Lancer GTS held tight to the road and didn't even start to blow off track. A side attribute to weighing a bit more is steady tracking in blustery winds. |
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I hopped in to my Lancer GTS and grabbed my vehicle registration and...it didn't have my Lancer's weight listed! Why not, I ask? You may ask, too. I looked on the driver's door sill and I got what my Lancer's tire pressure is supposed to be: 32 p.s.i. Ok, kinda knew that already. I looked in my Lancer's manual and they also don't list my '08 Lancer GTS' weight! They do, however list what the GVVR weigh is, and, when I subtract the maximum passenger weight from that weight I get 3,252 lbs. I then went to all the online articles I've bookmarked and to some others I Googled. Here are some interesting weights from the reviewer's articles on the 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS. Car Connection says it's curb weight is 3,032 lbs. Autobytel and Edmunds say the Japanese compact's curb weight is 3,109 lbs. Road and Track says 2,999 lbs.! Motor Trend lists the curb weight as 3,032 lbs., which matches what Edmunds and Car Connection says. So, in conclusion, I can say my 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS weighs approximately 3, 085 lbs. That is computed by adding all the weights up and dividing by the number of sources sought and found. What is perplexing is why my vehicle registration doesn't list the car's weight. Isn't that something you can count on, like death, taxes and an occasional Led Zeppelin reunion tour? Well, I'll find out soon because March 2008 is my license renewal month and hopefully the new paperwork will show the '08 Lancer GTS' weight. From looking at these numbers it appears the press got conflicting numbers. But since my initial vehicle registration does not show my car's weight on it I can't make a complete comparison. 
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Feb 17, 2008 9:42 am) I hate it when I let my obsessive nature drag other people into my nuttiness. I'm sorry I've got you running around looking up weights now too.  So you can sleep tonight I have a few figures for your Lancer from Edmunds. GTS auto--3109 GTS manual--3032 DE auto 2999 DE manual--2922 It seems that there are differences in weight depending on trim and optional equipment. Seems Edmunds was using the GTS and Road and Track was talking about the DE. I couldn't find a similar reason for my Eclipse numbers. Maybe the published figures are for a loaded up model with a sunroof and other gizmos mine doesn't have. I guess I'll just call Mitsu up and bug them. Then again, maybe I won't. I like the idea of my car weighing 150 pounds less. That'll make it FEEL faster.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Feb 15, 2008 8:45 am) 
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Replying to: toomanyfumes (Feb 17, 2008 3:12 pm) I was going to mention that especially since my dad served in the Pacific during WW II but then again General Motors factory in Germany made tanks for Hitler. |
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