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Replying to: tiff_c (Jan 21, 2008 12:44 pm)
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situation. I took it in to a local service place here in town to repair the left front tire. Turns out that is the same tire as was on the left rear before they did the 7,500 mile tire rotation. So that tire took a nail in the sidewall, was repaired, and eventually was rotated to the left front position. So, that knocks me down to technically just two flat tires so far on my '08 Lancer GTS. This guy said that if I would've come in to him with that tire needing a repair, he would've just ordered a new tire for it, because sidewall repairs are kind of dicey and especially so with performance tires. But, since the original repair was made with the "rope" type of plug (at another shop in town) and was already done, but now is leaking very slowly, they would try and repair the tire. So it has been done. I will just drive it and see what happens, he said he would be happy to order one 18" Dunlop, just call him up and give him the correct tire size, and he'd install it, if that situation should be necessary. He will not guarantee the flat repair on that tire. So there I go. I'll let y'all know what happens...still not what I would call a defect in my '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS. I do shudder to think what one of these Dunlop's might cost for just one of them. 
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Jan 21, 2008 9:22 am) tiff_c - Mitsubishi Reliability: Personal experiences with various brands will run the gambit from good to bad (be it Toyota, Honda or Mitsubishi). The reputation for Mitsubishi having poor (or less than average) reliability has more to do with the misinformed/ignorant/biased media incessantly trying to bash that misconception into average Joe's head. A lot of this comes from J.D. Power et al. type survey-based research. These surveys are very poor indicators of actual quality and/or reliability, since they essential test people's memory about their perceptions in regards to the experience with their vehicle. Margin of error, individuals' varying degree of tolerance to issues, age, minimal sample size requirements for bit players (like Mitsubishi, Subaru, etc.), etc. further erode the significance of these survey results. A statistically more meaningful alternative (because a real numbers are used) would be the following: http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/man_index_2.html?apc=3128339010848601&country=- - - - - usa&searchtype=relindex This is by no means perfect (i.e. lack of detail, could be more transparent regarding methodology, etc.), but it is more scientific and based on real money spent, problems had and repairs made. If you go to the British side of the site, important details like average age and average mileage of the vehicles by manufacturer can be obtained. Hope this is of use and help.
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first of all, I have a question for you. Were you scared when those guys that were shooting at people were on the loose? Glad they found them, anyway. Talk about nutty and scary stuff from Phoenix. So you've had three in the last 9 months in the greater Phoenix area and I've had two in Willcox and Cochise County in the last 10 months. There is a bit of new construction going on in Willcox, too, probably plays in to it. Also, I agree with you on your comment about Mitsubishi perceived reliability. Kind of the same thing Hyundai/Kia go through due to bad experiences long ago with the Hyundai Excel. Although they've vastly improved people still think of the nasty days of the Excel and can't get over it. Although I can't think of a sling of Mitsubishi's with bad reliability problems, though. There is a group at my work that must have some great personal experience with Mitsu because they praise their reliability very much. |
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Replying to: toomanyfumes (Jan 21, 2008 1:55 pm) No hybrids do pretty well on the highway as well. They owe it more to aerodynamics than anything. The hybrid system is pretty good but mostly with all the cops out even in the winter and the summer is worse, not much point in doing a ton of highway miles in a high performance car. i did it since 2002, but now the company is scaling back my mileage and in a year I'll have to make a change to something more fuel efficient for work. At least I'm down to about 30K a year for work.  Hopefully that will be less, in the future |
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Replying to: psychogun (Jan 21, 2008 3:41 pm) Sorry, but people I work with and friends as well as forums on the Internet tend to be valuable sources on info. Now if the Honda or Toyota dealer was saying that it would be different. Also JD Powers doesn't rank them too highly. However the dealerships are their biggest weakness. Most are a pain to deal with and we have 3 Mitsu dealerships in my area 1 is very far and the others aren't too bad. Granted I haven't owned a Mitsu in a few years but bad experiences die hard. Take VW (please) for instance, no way I'd ever buy another after all the times they've burned me. Nothing could ever convince me to buy a VW again. I'd also have serious doubts about even taking one for free if I had to maintain it. I'm hoping Mitsubishi has done a better job lately as I might just get a Ralliart, but the proof is in the test drive. We will need another car within a year.
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Replying to: tiff_c (Jan 21, 2008 7:13 pm) Forums on the internet are of questionable value since it is very easy to misrepresent oneself as well as the experiences had. Regarding J.D. Power, as I mentioned, they do not produce particularly meaningful research. I do agree with you that Mitsubishi dealerships are the company's biggest weakness. Two dealerships I have dealt with have had very high sales rep turnover. Dealership customer service really needs to improve. With sales increasing, hopefully both Mitsubishi and the dealerships will not only attract better talent but also provide better training.
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Replying to: psychogun (Jan 23, 2008 11:32 am) I would buy one without hesitation if I cared for their products, but alas, I don't. |
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confidence in the Japanese carmaker and makes me quell with anticipation as to what they will build next. In particular, I am really interested in what Mitsu can come up with as far as all-electric vehicles. I am really willing to jump this futures traders crapwagon and fling the oil lead weight off for good. I know that producing an all-electric rig will cause waste and pollution. That's not good but that's not the reason I'm excited about electric vehicles. I want to be able to charge my rig up and go. And not be tied to needing some ghastly station with overly-hyperly-inflated ghastly prices that are fake and temporary. Tired of it. Ready for a large change. I think Mitsubishi may very well be my company to continue buying from, unless Kia can come up with something better. I remain enamored with South Korean Kia Motors and their new design Chief, Peter Schreyer(from Audi). He is coming up with some great new designs and one of the cars designed before he even got to Kia, the cee'd, is winning awards in Europe faster than Britney Spears can shed hair and clothes and sanity. Bank on it. I will even buy one of those "bubble" shaped electric vehicles that I have seen Mitsubishi concepts of. I'll sacrifice some body design beauty, as in the 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS, yes, as a prime example out of any rig on the open market today, for some forward-reaching thinking. Thinking that will fling the tight hold of oil and ghastly away like an errant Allan Iverson 3-point shot. Bring 'em on, Asian dudes. If Ford can build the new Verve/Fiesta(based on the Mazda2 platform)successfully, intelligently and economically, and even create an electrically-powered Verve, I'm there for a test drive, too. The Mitsubishi hold on me now is as strong as a Kevin Durant jump shot, though. Swish! 
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I'd like to thank all the posters on this board for all the valuable information they have shared over the last few months. It really helped me decide to purchase a 2008 Eclipse GT in Rave Red. Similar in color to iluv's Rally Red Lancer. Car is beautiful and fast. Handles pretty well too. I've already left a few patches of rubber where I got a little too enthusiastic. Mike, I can still come over and let you drive it but it only has two pedals (thank my bad knee for that). 
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