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Replying to: ozzex (Jan 25, 2007 11:21 am) I agree with your theory sort of because of think people do buy cars by reccomendations by friends and family or by word of mouth. I like Honda because I have been a fan since I was 14 years old(I am now 27)and I have criticized Honda at times on these boards for the most part dropping the ball on the 03 Accord restyle and also the 07 MDX is just ugly I think. I don't go by word of mouth or what somebody else says about a car in terms of what car I am going to buy. When I had a Mazda and I was working in an office setting people looked down on Mazda and say I should buy a Honda, Toyota, and Nissan because they hold their value better(which is true)or they didn;t know what a mazda even was. "About the civic: if they sell millions, well they can get the "Best seller car of the century" if you want, in USA of course. ok they are reliable, but not the BEST car, its too much even for honda. The Civic is not going to win any kinda best century of the car award. Are you kidding. We're talking about a compact car and not a Mercedes. "that car has no "art of the state engineering" at all." Wat do you mean state of the art? The Lancer doesn;t have any state of the art engineering either from what I am aware of. "it's a good teenager or first car, or cheap tuning car but thats all, i want to know if any of the motor trend guys owns a civic, i bet you they dont, unless he get it for free as a trade to win the award." I agree its good for a first car. The motor trend guys are older in the 30's-50's I think they'll probably own somrthing like an Accord or a chrysler 300. "About honda has done nothing, well sorry but they haven't. Name one development of these company who has change the way of making cars. Answer: NONE." Has Mitsu really changed the way of making cars? I don;t think so either. "What i mean it's, so many years leading the market and their flagship it's the civic. COME ON." Their flagship is the Accord to me. "Well these companies have something that its really important, GREAT i mean AMAZING marketing." Well obviusly they do they get the word of mouth around but than again I think Toyota had some of their worst advertising campaigns before their "Moving Foward" campaign. Your acting like Mitsu is a class leader in every segement. I mean they have good engines. I can take an arguement from a GM or Ford fan because of the abuse they take from Japanese Car Fans or even say Mazda vehicles are more competive than they were 10 years but you are talking about Mitsu here.
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Replying to: ozzex (Jan 25, 2007 11:44 am) I used to watch Indy Car but once the IRL came in to me it ruined both Indy Car and the IRL. I think Indy Car is now called the Champ Car Series. There is no superstar drivers in Champ Car(formely called Indy Car.) In the earky to mid 90's you had Al Unser Jr, Bobby Rahal, Michael Andretti, Paul Tracy, Robby Gordon, and Emerson Fitipaldi. I just tuned off because Indy Car(now called champ car) lost my interest. F-1 I tried to watch it but it just doesn't interest me. Just the lack of passing each other just bothers me. I can watch motorcycle racing though. "Seriously, what you prove? put a f-1 on a NASCAR race, it will destroy the track record, now put a nascar car at a F-1 track, won't be able to do the first corner." Not everything is about how fast you can go. In NASCAR the fastest car doesn;t always win the race. "Even Drag races has a point, who has the best acceleration? but nascar? no wonder why only domestics race on that crap." I used to watch drag racing all the time in the mid to late 90's but I just don;t watch it anymore. I still like the sport though but just don;t watch it anymore. I have gone to an NHRA drag race 3 times. The drag races are really fun to go to too. As far as NASCArR goes that won me over in 1994. I was a Rusty Wallace fan forever until he retired. Now I have to root for Kurt Busch because he drives Rusty's car now. Rally-I have appreciation for what those guys do though despite not watching it. Robby Gordon races Rally sometimes I think. Thats a tough sport. I just spent a whole post on every racing series. Lets get back to talking about Mitsu. |
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Replying to: ozzex (Jan 25, 2007 12:16 pm) F-1 has really never been popular in the US. NASCAR has a big fan base in the US. "But i bet you, japan headquarters hate NASCAR, as the rest of the world." That comment is a little drastic. |
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Replying to: ozzex (Jan 25, 2007 12:16 pm) They want to get into the american roots, thats all." Remember winning on Sunday does not mean automatically sell on monday. Look at my most before about the Domestics winning every NASCAR race for years but that hasn;t transalated(for the Domestic 2.5) into keeping their 70% market share of the US market that they had in 1997. |
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Replying to: wale_bate1 (Jan 25, 2007 8:50 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 26, 2007 7:09 am) Subsequent iterations have been nothing to write home about, IMO. A rust-resistant Chrysler, eh? Unheard of dear boy, unheard of... 
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I use to live in Peru (south america for the retards), and we have japanese and asian cars before usa, but we had before only american cars, my grandpa had like 6, then came asian cars and took over the market together with the european cars, we have Toyota, Nissan, Mitsu, Hyundai, Daewoo, Kia, Susuki, Sang yong (Asia)Volkswagen, Audi, Bmw, Mercedes Benz, Alfa romeo, Volvo, Renault, citroen, Peugeot, Seat, Ferrari, Lambo, Jaguar, etc. (europe) And imagine that now we dont have USA cars, only ford and chevy. And a few, very few chryslers. Now imagine that asian cars and europeans are under same categories prices, thats why i was telling you that they dont want that to happen here or bye bye domestics. Well, my first car was a 82' nissan sunny, it was a good car but automatic transmission, by the way i hate automatic, it takes away all the fun, real cars use Stick shift. Then i bought a 92 hyundai sonata, by the way the sonata exists since 86 or before. This sonata had a mitsubishi engine, i swear like 200,000 miles and nothing never broke, it was really fast, never major serviced or nothing, i'm telling i pushed that motor to the limits, it was a really BAD ASS, not because it was big or stupid fast, it was built to last forever, when i left Peru the car still working like new, on the way i bought a 89 Ford Bronco Eddie Bauer from an american that worked on the american embassy, in 2 years and less than 100,000 miles i had two replace pretty much everything. My Nissan broke like 10 times too, my aunt peugeot the same, my friends cars also, bmw's, benz's, alfa's, but my hyundai with lancer engine never did. That car was the S*h*i*t |
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| I do think that Mitsu is in the middle of turning things around. Last spring I looked at a Galant. I was impressed with the power and looks, but my wife vetoed me and we ended up with an Accord EX. In December, we bought a 2000 Eclipse GT for our 17 year old son. Great car. Lots of power and looks. Just for fun, our son tried out an 07 Eclipse GT. He actually preferred his 2000. He said the 07 felt too big on the outside and too cramped on the inside. It is a really sharp looking car though. I really like the new Outlander and the 08 Lancer looks to be a great product. I'm looking forward to a new Galant. Maybe I can trade my Sienna minivan on one. | |
Mitsubishi can't claim that they're starting to turn things around while they're still losing hundreds of millions of dollars every year. They're surviving only because the other Mitsubishi companies gave them a $10 billion cash infusion.
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Replying to: dave82 (Jan 29, 2007 6:31 pm) Rocky |
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