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Replying to: rockylee (Jan 23, 2007 10:23 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 24, 2007 6:55 am)  Rocky |
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 24, 2007 6:55 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jan 24, 2007 7:27 am) Good engine when Twin Turbo's were added. Rocky |
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dudes, looks like nobody knows about mitsu, everybody gets tired saying that toyota and honda are the best, well let me tell you this, they suck big time. honda have like twenty years on f-1 and only one championship when they were togetjer with mclaren, so its basically mclaren champ, toyota have never won anything and they run on every single little class, from paris-dakkar, now lisboa-dakkar to F-1 and now nascar, they have millions in budgets and teams, mitsu runs only a few, no big budgets and they win everything, more than 6 time champions of WRC (world rally championship) lancer EVO form the 1 to the 10. 11 times Paris-dakkar with the montero, 6 on a row including 2006 that just finish, the new baja 1000 with the raider. whats the problem ladies and gentleman; "the tree big ones", toyota, honda and nissan dont want to share the market, even hyundai it's doing things better than those 3, how its the honda civic car of the year, that car its nothing, how the honda ridgeline its truck of the year, thats unacceptable, but people buy what they think its good, look at the tests on this page of for example: 07 outlander and 07 rav-4, mitsu its way better, more features and specs, but where a spec of the outlander its almost, i mean fractions of difference of any spec form the rav-4, rav-4 get excellent or very good and outlander gets good or normal, for me toyota and honda sucks, nissan not that much, look at recalls from the eclipse 06 they have what 3 i believe, 06 civic have like 12, so people comon, dont let yourself be tricked and your mind poisoned. Any mitsubishi car will destroy the same class car on toyota or honda, and if you get it tunned, then get ready to kick some as...s 
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Replying to: ozzex (Jan 24, 2007 7:29 pm) Spell Check Other than that, we all know Mitsu has engineering prowess in spades, and every now and then they seem to know a good price point. Fact is, occasionally their execution and quality control are dicey, and they usually don't have the most sophisticated or refined offerings. End result is that their regular passenger offerings have been lacking in value, refinement, styling and efficiency, and that, other than some of the EVO experience now and the Eclipse experience of nearly ten years ago, we haven't seen bupkus from them to achieve any solid spots on the leader board. Add to all that a dealership network that makes "Girls Gone Wild" look wholesome, and they have some ground to make up. Frustrating, because they really can put it all together from time to time. '97 Eclipse GSX, for example, IMO. |
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Replying to: ozzex (Jan 24, 2007 7:29 pm) The only thing I;m with you on is the Ridgeline winning truck of the year since I think the Ford F Series should have maybe won it. I haven;t compared the RAV 4 with the Outlander but the Outlander does look nice looking though. As far as winning races the Domestic Big 3 have won every NASCAR race for awhile but thats racing and yeah I do like NASCAR The Domestics market share has been down for the past 10 years vs the Japanese and lately the Koreans in the US. What I am trying to say is winning in different forms of racing doesn;t transalate into big sales numbers automatically. As far as any Mitsu product beating a Honda product I don;t know about that. Depends what you are looking for. If Mitsu is the product for you than its the product for you. For the record, I do like the exterior of the Endeavor alot better than the Pilot's exterior so I'm not biased towards Honda. As far as saying the Civic is nothing it has been a class leader(or one of the leaders)in the compact car game for years. |
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Replying to: ozzex (Jan 24, 2007 7:29 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 25, 2007 8:45 am) Which Chrysler? I owned a '95 Stratus with the Mitsu 2.5L six and a 2001 Sebring coupe with the 3.0L six, and both were smooth, capable and flawless, so my experience tallies with yours. I'm a Mitsu fan when it comes to engineering, but they've historically dropped the ball in so many other regards in North America that it's very difficult to keep cheering. One keeps hope, though...
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i'm sorry about my spell, english its my second language, if you you want i can write this in spanish or portuguese but i doubt you will understand, i want to see you speaking 3 languages, even worst, writing 3 languages, but you are right sorry about my spell, i just realize the spell check button. well, like you guys just said, honda it's not the best because they sell a lot, i dont hate honda or toyota, i'm just saying that the market in USA it's conducted by the media, people buy what "they" say it's the best. And the guy who said people dont need a rally winner car to go to job, now i ask you these, you dont need a formula 1 or a 5 ton tow capacity or a 8 passenger SUV either, or a nascar car right?. so why these companies invest all that money, simple answer: Reputation. About the civic: if they sell millions, well they can get the "Best seller car of the century" if you want, in USA of course. ok they are reliable, but not the BEST car, its too much even for honda. that car has no "art of the state engineering" at all. it's a good teenager or first car, or cheap tuning car but thats all, i want to know if any of the motor trend guys owns a civic, i bet you they dont, unless he get it for free as a trade to win the award. About honda has done nothing, well sorry but they haven't. Name one development of these company who has change the way of making cars. Answer: NONE. They have reliable cars, cause on the truck segment: they are NEW, on bikes they are good. What i mean it's, so many years leading the market and their flagship it's the civic. COME ON. They wont even let renault or citroen to come and compete, one (renault) F-1 champion; citroen, WRC former champion, Peugeot, WRC former champion. So you will be asking yourself, why they sell better than anybody? well american cars has to face that the muscle cars are good cars if you have the pocket to pay for a 10mpg car with terrible quality, and they were ugly until a few years, they have improve a LOT now, but they still expensive, and an EVO or STI can beat them on the truck anytime, with half size engine. Well these companies have something that its really important, GREAT i mean AMAZING marketing.
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