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#1453 of 1466 PHEV Outlander
by fushigi
Dec 27, 2012 (3:15 pm)
Some videos in Japanese: http://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?video_ids=oBbvAi2oi6M%2CzB8OHbr-3rc%2CCl3kHv- mOj8w%2CAdyOqmEZBME&no_autoplay=1 (the last one features a decided Anglo couple & it's dubbed in Japanese).
From the second spot, there are 2 "fuel consumption" numbers: 18.6 km/l and 67 km/l. While my Japanese is too rusty to translate, just doing unit conversions reveals 43.7 and 157.6 mpg. I'm going to assume that means the eMPG rating will be 157 and it can sustain about 44 MPG in charge-sustaining mode. Not bad for a crossover with AWD. Electric range should be respectable as it shares battery packs with the i-MiEV.
To make a PHEV make even more sense, I just switched electricity suppliers. New rate will be 4.71 cents/kwh so a plug-in would be very cheap to operate.
Dec 30, 2012 (3:22 pm)
whoa...gotta say that I'll be following the PHEV Outlander's introduction to the "real" automotive market pretty closely in the upcoming months. Great ghastly mileage and "electric" numbers as well. Mitsubishi is a great, great automotive company. Love 'em more all of the time!
#1455 of 1466 Re: PHEV Outlander... [iluvmysephia1]
by fushigi
Dec 30, 2012 (4:50 pm)
Of course things may change for the US introduction, the competition could roll out compelling alternatives, and the pricing could turn out to be too high for average consumers to consider. So it's definitely a wait-and-see thing. But it is encouraging and I find it interesting that the only real hybrid CUV in the Outlander's class is the Escape. Really, really surprised that Toyota hasn't released a hybrid RAV4 considering that they have the most production hybrid experience of any modern automaker. Their EV RAV4 doesn't count IMO since it isn't truly their product.
I don't know if you caught it but Mitsu trimmed 200 pounds off the regular '14 Outlander; that I'm sure helped efficiency for ICE-based as well as PHEV Outies.
#1456 of 1466 No I didn't catch that...
by iluvmysephia1
Dec 31, 2012 (6:31 pm)
fushigi. I am officially even more interested than before now in the 2014 Mitsubishi PHEV Outlander. I first saw glimpses of it about a year ago on the net and have been interested in it ever since. Priced around $25,000, right?
#1457 of 1466 Re: No I didn't catch that... [iluvmysephia1]
by fushigi
Dec 31, 2012 (6:59 pm)
I'm sure $25K will be for the 4 cyl ICE version. 6 cyl & PHEV versions will certainly cost more. My V6 '10 Outlander GT stickered over 33K and there were a couple of dealer-adds on top of that (aftermarket remote start, scuff plates, etc.).
I fully expect a "nicely equipped" the PHEV to run at least $40K before any gov't incentives. Think Chevy Volt pricing. But considering I wouldn't use any gas at all on a normal commute it might still be worth it.
I've driven to my client's site a couple of times since xmas and in the eco-friendly parking garage I use (http://www.greenwayselfpark.com/) there's been a Fisker Karma charging both times. Very attractive sedan. And I like that the garage has charging stations (and wind power generators); if I bought a PHEV Outlander it'd be a good place to recharge.
#1458 of 1466 Some compacts studied for their best attributes...
by iluvmysephia1
Feb 07, 2013 (11:02 pm)
This was from January 2009 Car and Driver. I must say the Mitsubishi Lancer GT does look the best. And owning a '08 Lancer GTS does make me biased, I realize. But my Lancer GTS is such a great car, at idle it barely makes a noise. And I have 100,589 miles on the car!
We are able to enjoy the great cars from Mitsubishi partly because the rest of the Mitsubishi conglomerate is successful enough to throw cash towards Mitsubishi Global Automotive often enough that it counts.
And for that this hombre is so very, very thankful. Thank you for making such a great compact automobile, Mitsubishi!
#1459 of 1466 Re: Some compacts studied for their best attributes... [iluvmysephia1]
by fushigi
Feb 10, 2013 (9:00 am)
I don't know that Mitsu follows the Edmunds forums. They are on Twitter & Facebook, though, so you can post on their feed/wall if you want to give them the pubic kudos.
I'm debating hitting the Chicago Auto Show this week. Don't really have the time but would like to wander the floor.
#1460 of 1466 Re: Some compacts studied for their best attributes... [fushigi]
by toomanyfumes
Feb 10, 2013 (12:41 pm)
I might do the Chicago show myself. I'm about 90 miles north but I'll be staying near Wrigley field next weekend. I thought about the motorcycle show today but didn't feel like making the drive. To stay on topic, I'll be taking the Outlander down there. No way I'll take the new Mustang there, especially as I'll have to valet park at the hotel.
#1461 of 1466 a new product announcement
by steve_ HOST
Mar 29, 2013 (12:19 pm)
"The 2014 Mitsubishi Mirage debuted on Thursday at the 2013 New York Auto Show, as the automaker mulls a plan to expand the brand's product line in the U.S.
Mitsubishi is considering adding a midsized sedan and a large seven-passenger crossover, segments the automaker abandoned, Edmunds has learned. As part of that plan, Mitsubishi is making an effort to create more exciting looking vehicles."
2014 Mitsubishi Mirage Heralds Product Push
"Edmunds says: Big changes may be in store for Mitsubishi in the U.S."
Comments like that make me wonder if they'll do a Suzuki.
#1462 of 1466 Re: a new product announcement [steve_]
by fushigi
Mar 29, 2013 (1:40 pm)
I'll admit to being concerned about US acceptance of a 74HP 1.2L powerplant, though 37/44/40 city/highway/combined may be enough to sway buyers, especially with the low price. If it gets excellent crash scores then it may woo some Scion buyers.
And I've always contended that Mitsu - really all mainstream carmakers - needs a midsize sedan in the lineup. I just hope they come up with a new platform to put it on instead of trying to get more mileage out of the Lancer platform which underpins the Outlander duo and is already several years old.
Does the 14 Outlander still run on the Lancer platform? I'm curious since I'm sure a lot of work went in to making it PHEV-ready (along with the other refinements).
I do not think they need the larger 7 passenger SUV. If they already have a foreign-market unit that they can just update for the US, then fine, but personally I think it'd be a waste of engineering effort and cost to do such a vehicle, especially when the marketplace doesn't really show jumbo utes selling in mass quantities. At least that's my observation based on the cars I see on the road.
(I'm still considering the PHEV Outlander for my next car, though my '10 Outlander doesn't even have 30K on the odo yet so I'm likely years away from my next purchase.)