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#125 of 1058 A request by pf_flyer HOST Mar 14, 2007 (7:57 am)
Let's not turn yet another discussion into GM vs the world please.
#127 of 1058 As to the question of 'Is Mitsubishi being by iluvmysephia1 Mar 14, 2007 (11:24 am)
reborn in the U.S.' or not...the answer is a resounding yes. Anybody following the new Outlander and Lancer projects with any wherewithal at all will see that Mitsubishi has their 2007 act tightly together.   A side bonus of buying a Mitsubishi is Finbarr O'Neill's work of bringing the Hyundai/Kia 10-year, 100,000 mile Warranty to the company.   If you think about it, a lot of the criticism against Mitsubishi was unfounded and full of baloney. Is it Mitsubishi's fault that loads of buyers were dishonest and defaulted on their loan? Really, those morons that did that hurt themselves and their own credit ratings.   Mitsubishi and their staff of engineers, research personnel, manufacturing personnel, office and accounting personnel, etc., still have their jobs and are busy at them.   The dorks that thought it would be so fun to buy a car and then not make their payments are the true losers here, not Mitsubishi. Replies to this message: dtownfb (Mar 14, 2007 12:07 pm)
#128 of 1058 Re: As to the question of 'Is Mitsubishi being [iluvmysephia1] by dtownfb Mar 14, 2007 (12:07 pm)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Mar 14, 2007 11:24 am) <<If you think about it, a lot of the criticism against Mitsubishi was unfounded and full of baloney. Is it Mitsubishi's fault that loads of buyers were dishonest and defaulted on their loan? Really, those morons that did that hurt themselves and their own credit ratings.>>   Not sure you can absolve Mitsubishi of all blame. They had to know the 0/0/0 sale was going to cause a lot of problems esp. when you are approving people with questionable credit history. And their cars depreciate like..like me in a swimming pool (they don't call me anchor for nothing). Not a good combination. Of course it did sell a lot of cars but look at where they are now. There is a reason other companies are not using this same tactic.   build good cars at a fair price and have a solid marketing plan and good things will begin to happen.
#129 of 1058 And that doesn't even start to by iluvmysephia1 Mar 14, 2007 (1:03 pm)
refute the point I just said. Mitsubishi wants to sell cars. Their plan looked attractive to some young, impulsive buyers. Does the fact that they bought cars and defaulted on their loans take away automotive quality from Mitsubishi Motors of Japan? Of course it doesn't! Replies to this message: dtownfb (Mar 14, 2007 3:50 pm)
#130 of 1058 Re: And that doesn't even start to [iluvmysephia1] by dtownfb Mar 14, 2007 (3:50 pm)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Mar 14, 2007 1:03 pm) I agree that the consumer is ultimately responsible for the loan defaults but Mitsubishi does deserve some blame because they approved some of the buyers who had bad credit. does it mean their cars are bad? No way but you do get a bad reputation. They have to overcome this which means build good cars at a fair price and have a solid marketing plan. Any other shortcut they try to increase sales will kill this company.
#131 of 1058 Date of release for 08 Lancer? by harrychezt Mar 14, 2007 (5:56 pm)
I attended the Columbus, Ohio International Autoshow this past weekend. I was really not thrilled,because, Mitsubishi's area did not have the new 08 Lancer. They had the 07, but not the new one.   I have heard first week of March, then last week of March, for launch of the 08 Lancer. I spoke to the guy attending the Mitsubishi area, and asked him, "When will the Lancer be released"? He told me, "I don't know,no onehas told us 100% for sure, yet"! He said at first, it was March,but then were told May, then last week, August!  I told him,, I heard the EVO would be out in August. I even Called Mitsubishi 800- number a few weeks back, and got a similar response! So, anytime from now to August! take care/not offense.
#132 of 1058 harrychezt... by iluvmysephia1 Mar 14, 2007 (7:57 pm)
over here in the greater Tucson area the 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer's are in! I spoke with a salesman at Wildcat Mitsubishi(sort of in east-central Tucson)and he has some automatic tranny Lancer's but no manuals in yet. He has my cell # and I have his office number and we have even set up a time to meet halfway between Willcox and Tucson in a town named Benson, AZ.   He says the '08 Lancer's with the 5-speed manual tranny's are on their way to Tucson! He must mean soon because we're meeting in Benson Saturday afternoon. I told him about the '01 Sportsman and he sounded very eager to deal.   They'll find with me they'll have no pushover, though. I want top dollar for the Sportage 4x4 or the deal is off. I am very enamored with the '08 Lancer GTS in 5-speed form with the optional Sun and Sound Package. I mentioned my 3 favorite colors(Electric Blue, Rally Red and Apex Silver...yes, they're arranged by most favorite listed first!!)and that it must be a manual tranny or all deals are off.   It's gonna be in the low 80's here in southeast Arizona Saturday...when I come home with my Lancer with the sunroof my wife will freak at first but I think she'll eventually warm up to it(pardon the pun ). The GTS model I'm getting also has automatic climate control so we'll be cruising in comfort, dudes.   Yes..I've spent literally hundreds of hours researching this pup so now it's time to deal. I'll keep ya'll updated as we move along.
#133 of 1058 Out now? by harrychezt Mar 14, 2007 (9:24 pm)
I tell ya, I wonder if they just did not get one in yet, so the guy made up the story about" now-August". Sounds like it. IMHO, you have a brand new car, arriving now, and they don't have one for a major autoshow,there's no excuse for it. Ford had the 08 Focus sedan, and it is not out yet!   http://wardsauto.com/testdrive/mitsubishi_new_lancer2/   Manual sounds like the way to go. I wish Mitsu did not put the CVT in. This article(and others) seem to prefer the newer small cars 5 speed automatics over the CVT. I drove one CVT, the Caliber, and it was tolerable, but that was it. Read the article... let us know(if you decide to test the automatic/cvt, and how it did) how you feel about the Mitsubishi. I might just sitck with the tC for awhile longer(and hope Scion doesn't mess it up, next design). This syas 0-60 with the manual in 9 seconds( cvt is probably 10 seconds?..just a guess). I'll take the tC, with automatic, 0-60 in 8.2 seconds, and read 7.7 to 7.8 with manual. Better MPG, too( read 29-30 for Lancer, vs 32-34 for our tC,even at 75,000+ miles). I like the Lancer, but if it is 10 seconds to 60, you'll get run over where I live,unless your vehicle weighs 6 tons. Wonder how the 3 door Saturn Astra will do( I bet it is smaller than Lancer, though)when it's released in the Fall? Anyhow, good luck,whatever you decide to do. take care/not offense.
#134 of 1058 harrychezt.. by iluvmysephia1 Mar 15, 2007 (7:26 am)
the 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer does 0-60 in 7.8 seconds.   The 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer CVT automatic might just nip the 5-speed manual '08 Lancer in getting up to 60mph the fastest. It would depend on the skill of the driver. Replies to this message: harrychezt (Mar 15, 2007 12:28 pm)

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