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Not Good by oldfarmer50
Nov 09, 2009 (3:44 pm)
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Mitsubishi's October sales down 48% to under 3900 units.
 
This is really bad.
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oldfarmer50... by iluvmysephia1
Nov 09, 2009 (4:03 pm)
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all I can say about your post just above is .
 
Poo!
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Re: Not Good [oldfarmer50] by fushigi
Nov 10, 2009 (5:21 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 09, 2009 3:44 pm)

Definitely not good. I have my eye on a 2010 Outlander but they aren't due out for another week or more and even then I won't buy right away.
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Re: Not Good [fushigi] by mikevegas06
Nov 11, 2009 (3:40 am)
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Replying to: fushigi (Nov 10, 2009 5:21 am)

Hopefully, the new models like the i MiEV and it's gasoline powered twin the i car will help turn things around or at least stop the bleeding. I'm not sure what's taking the gasoline powered i to get here though. Seems like they would introduce it first (like in 2010 for the 2011 model year) and then release the electric version (in 2011 for the 2012 model year).
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Re: Not Good [mikevegas06] by oldfarmer50
Nov 11, 2009 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: mikevegas06 (Nov 11, 2009 3:40 am)

I for one can't understand why Mitsu doesn't sell more cars. I am very happy with my Eclipse. I recently sat in a Dodge Challenger and the new Camaro and they didn't have any more room despite being much larger and very much heavier. Other cars I've driven just can't compare when it come to the smooth power of a Mitsubishi product.
 
Everyone I know who owns any Mitsubishi vehicle raves about it.
 
So what's the problem? Do they not spend enough ad money or is it the media bashing? I wonder.
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Re: Not Good [oldfarmer50] by toomanyfumes
Nov 11, 2009 (3:54 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 11, 2009 8:07 am)

I wonder why they don't sell more either. The Outlander is a cool, unique small SUV and the Lancer is one of the best looking small cars out there.
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Re: Not Good [toomanyfumes] by steve_ HOST
Nov 11, 2009 (6:17 pm)
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Replying to: toomanyfumes (Nov 11, 2009 3:54 pm)

wonder why they don't sell more either.
 
Not enough dealers?
 
Australia has about 21.4 million people and "200+" Mitsubishi dealers.
 
The US has about 304 million people and "500+" Mitsubishi dealers (that was in '07).
 
Then again, Subaru "only" has about 600 US dealers. Can't find a number for Suzuki off-hand.
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Re: Not Good [steve_] by mitsfan
Nov 12, 2009 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 11, 2009 6:17 pm)

I think it goes beyond dealers. If they only sold 3900 car for the month of October that means 3900 div -- 500 = averages 8 cars per dealer per month. How can you pay your sales people, parts people and even keep your service dept open, not even counting overhead with that kinda of volume.The Mitsubishi plant in Normal has to be all but done since most of those volumes sold did not even hardly include the Gallant ,Eclipse and Endeavour. This is very sad for all us Mitsubishi owners
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Re: Not Good [steve_] by psychogun
Nov 12, 2009 (9:46 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 11, 2009 6:17 pm)

mitsfan is correct, the dealer network is more of a result than cause of Mitsubishi's poor sales.
Mitsubishi's main problem is that their ad/marketing/PR budget is minuscule. When is the last time you've seen a Mitsubishi ad on TV? For me it's months. For consumers it's out of sight out of mind.
Mitsubishi's second problem is their lack of brand recognition (both in terms of "what" and "how good"). Say Mitsubishi to the average Joe and they will say TV, A/C, or "damn Jap plane that attacked Pearl Harbor" (seen just recently on an autoblog comment. I also apologize if I offended anyone with the preceding statement). I am not kidding here.
Thus, not only is Mitsubishi not known by consumers as an automaker, those that do know about them have a negative perception of the brand. This perception is further compounded by the survey-based studies from J.D Power, CR, and others the media eagerly shoves down consumers throats.
If Mitsubishi wants to sell more cars, they need to ramp up advertising, get a stellar PR agency that can distance the company from the past, and improve the customer experience at the dealership (both sale and service).
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Re: Not Good [psychogun] by steve_ HOST
Nov 12, 2009 (10:24 pm)
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Replying to: psychogun (Nov 12, 2009 9:46 pm)

When is the last time you've seen a Mitsubishi ad on TV?
 
A decade, but I killed my TV. I notice that there's currently a Mazda ad in the right sidebar here (obviously they need to buy a bunch of ads from Edmunds).
 
It's been 60 years since WWII, so I really have to wonder if Pearl Harbor is much of a factor (if people have heard of Mitsu, they still probably don't know that they made the Zero).
 
The last batch of PR problems was the sex discrimination case that cost Mitsu a small fortune, both in cash and goodwill. But I hear even less of that than the "Japanese" comments.
 
I dunno - the conglomerate is so big maybe they're just too unwieldy (just now learned that they own Nikon; had no idea).
 
You'd think that the 5/60, 10/100 warranties would help but you don't hear much about them either - it's always Hyundai.
 
Maybe the cars seem too boy-racer for most people? And the cheapest Lancer is still thousands more expensive than a base Versa or Accent (ignoring size and feature content). Iluvmysephia1 is always posting links to their concept and electric cars. Maybe it's going to take one of those "halo" cars to finally get some traffic into the showrooms. Or a free D40 in every glovebox.

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