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#1457 of 1466 Re: No I didn't catch that... [iluvmysephia1] by fushigi

Dec 31, 2012 (6:59 pm)

Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Dec 31, 2012 6:31 pm)
I'm sure $25K will be for the 4 cyl ICE version. 6 cyl & PHEV versions will certainly cost more. My V6 '10 Outlander GT stickered over 33K and there were a couple of dealer-adds on top of that (aftermarket remote start, scuff plates, etc.).
 
I fully expect a "nicely equipped" the PHEV to run at least $40K before any gov't incentives. Think Chevy Volt pricing. But considering I wouldn't use any gas at all on a normal commute it might still be worth it.
 
I've driven to my client's site a couple of times since xmas and in the eco-friendly parking garage I use (http://www.greenwayselfpark.com/) there's been a Fisker Karma charging both times. Very attractive sedan. And I like that the garage has charging stations (and wind power generators); if I bought a PHEV Outlander it'd be a good place to recharge.

#1458 of 1466 Some compacts studied for their best attributes... by iluvmysephia1

Feb 07, 2013 (11:02 pm)


 
This was from January 2009 Car and Driver. I must say the Mitsubishi Lancer GT does look the best. And owning a '08 Lancer GTS does make me biased, I realize. But my Lancer GTS is such a great car, at idle it barely makes a noise. And I have 100,589 miles on the car!
 
We are able to enjoy the great cars from Mitsubishi partly because the rest of the Mitsubishi conglomerate is successful enough to throw cash towards Mitsubishi Global Automotive often enough that it counts.
 
And for that this hombre is so very, very thankful. Thank you for making such a great compact automobile, Mitsubishi!

#1459 of 1466 Re: Some compacts studied for their best attributes... [iluvmysephia1] by fushigi

Feb 10, 2013 (9:00 am)

Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Feb 07, 2013 11:02 pm)
I don't know that Mitsu follows the Edmunds forums. They are on Twitter & Facebook, though, so you can post on their feed/wall if you want to give them the pubic kudos.
 
I'm debating hitting the Chicago Auto Show this week. Don't really have the time but would like to wander the floor.

#1460 of 1466 Re: Some compacts studied for their best attributes... [fushigi] by toomanyfumes

Feb 10, 2013 (12:41 pm)

Replying to: fushigi (Feb 10, 2013 9:00 am)
I might do the Chicago show myself. I'm about 90 miles north but I'll be staying near Wrigley field next weekend. I thought about the motorcycle show today but didn't feel like making the drive. To stay on topic, I'll be taking the Outlander down there. No way I'll take the new Mustang there, especially as I'll have to valet park at the hotel.

#1461 of 1466 a new product announcement by steve_ HOST

Mar 29, 2013 (12:19 pm)

"The 2014 Mitsubishi Mirage debuted on Thursday at the 2013 New York Auto Show, as the automaker mulls a plan to expand the brand's product line in the U.S.
 
Mitsubishi is considering adding a midsized sedan and a large seven-passenger crossover, segments the automaker abandoned, Edmunds has learned. As part of that plan, Mitsubishi is making an effort to create more exciting looking vehicles."
 
2014 Mitsubishi Mirage Heralds Product Push
 
"Edmunds says: Big changes may be in store for Mitsubishi in the U.S."
 
Comments like that make me wonder if they'll do a Suzuki.

#1462 of 1466 Re: a new product announcement [steve_] by fushigi

Mar 29, 2013 (1:40 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Mar 29, 2013 12:19 pm)
I'll admit to being concerned about US acceptance of a 74HP 1.2L powerplant, though 37/44/40 city/highway/combined may be enough to sway buyers, especially with the low price. If it gets excellent crash scores then it may woo some Scion buyers.
 
And I've always contended that Mitsu - really all mainstream carmakers - needs a midsize sedan in the lineup. I just hope they come up with a new platform to put it on instead of trying to get more mileage out of the Lancer platform which underpins the Outlander duo and is already several years old.
 
Does the 14 Outlander still run on the Lancer platform? I'm curious since I'm sure a lot of work went in to making it PHEV-ready (along with the other refinements).
 
I do not think they need the larger 7 passenger SUV. If they already have a foreign-market unit that they can just update for the US, then fine, but personally I think it'd be a waste of engineering effort and cost to do such a vehicle, especially when the marketplace doesn't really show jumbo utes selling in mass quantities. At least that's my observation based on the cars I see on the road.
 
(I'm still considering the PHEV Outlander for my next car, though my '10 Outlander doesn't even have 30K on the odo yet so I'm likely years away from my next purchase.)

#1463 of 1466 Re: a new product announcement [fushigi] by toomanyfumes

Mar 29, 2013 (4:42 pm)

Replying to: fushigi (Mar 29, 2013 1:40 pm)
I gotta agree, a competitive mid-size sedan is a must to compete in the marketplace. They need a exciting complete lineup pretty fast, or they're gonna fall off the radar screen for most buyers. Wife's still pretty happy with our '07 Outlander, especially the V6 engine, which you can't really get in a compact CUV anymore.

#1464 of 1466 Mitsubishi will be just fine... by iluvmysephia1

Mar 31, 2013 (6:15 pm)

in the U.S. market. I am still loving my 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS and it's strong engine. I don't think any carmaker makes a better engine than Mitsubishi. Mine still purrs like a kitten at 102,644 miles.
 
The new Global Small Car is a sound design and should sell like hotcakes with ghastly prices way over $3.00 a gallon for RUG. We still need ta get off of ghastly and on to hydrogen or all-electric drivetrains.
 
Mitsubishi Motors runs separately from its Mitsubishi parent Company, and that is one huge parent Company. It is not the same situation as Suzuki Motors. I think Suzuki Motors looked at American people as more trouble than they're worth and really not very right at picking out new automobiles. Think I'm wrong? Ask your favorite Suzuki executive.
 
Look at all the dumb Honda, GM, Hummer, etc. products on American roads and you'll have my answer. The 2010 Suzuki Kizashi I test drove rocked mightily. I have talked to countless people who have bought Suzuki's and they love them.
 
I loved that Kizashi but I love my 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS more. It's a great car that's so easy to take care of and looks fantastic. I wouldn't want any other car.
 

2014 Mitsubishi Mirage

#1465 of 1466 Re: Mitsubishi will be just fine... [iluvmysephia1] by steve_ HOST

Mar 31, 2013 (6:49 pm)

Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Mar 31, 2013 6:15 pm)
I think Suzuki Motors looked at American people as more trouble than they're worth
 
Looks like Canadians are troublesome too. Suzuki is done after model year 2014 up there.

#1466 of 1466 Re: Mitsubishi will be just fine... [iluvmysephia1] by fushigi

Apr 02, 2013 (2:37 pm)

Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Mar 31, 2013 6:15 pm)
Like I said, my concern about the new Mirage is the powerplant. If it only brings the weaksauce then people probably won't buy it regardless of fuel economy. I'm hoping they've maximized the low-end torque so the off-the-line performance at least feels peppy (doesn't have to actually be fast as long as there's a little throttle-thrill).
 
I don't know that comparing Suzuki to Mitsu is valid. Suzuki never had a strong year while Mitsu had several (lots of success with the 99-03 Galants, for instance). Suzuki never had US manufacturing. Suzuki never had remotely near a complete lineup. Suzuki never had a niche they did well in like the Evo & Eclipse. Suzuki never really had a reputation for anything. Suzuki DID have the Samurai rollover PR nightmare.
 
Not that Mitsu has been perfect, of course, but the US histories of the two companies really have little in common.
 
Personally I'm content with my '10 Outlander GT. Unlike Honda, Toyota, GM, Ford, Hyundai, etc. Mitsu has had exceedingly few recalls that I've heard about and my car hasn't had any. So while it may not be the greatest car, the engineering and build quality are quite good. There was the issue with weak AC compressors (bad batch from their supplier) but that was handled under warranty.

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