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#275 of 306
NIH...?? by wwest
Jul 15, 2009 (2:28 pm)
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Did I just prevent Lexus from using an otherwise viable solution..??
 
Recently you submitted a question to the Lexus Customer Satisfaction Department.
 
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Fw: Idea
   
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 Response (DCha) 07/15/2009 07:45 AM
Dear Mr. West:
 
Thank you for contacting the Lexus Customer Satisfaction Department advising us of your product idea. We appreciate the fact that you have taken the time to share your thoughts and comments with us. Lexus is a division of Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc. (TMS). It is against the policy of TMS to accept unsolicited ideas from persons outside of the Toyota organization. The possibility of a conflict between developments from within the Toyota organizations and ideas submitted by interested persons, such as yourself, make this policy necessary. In accordance with this long-standing policy, we apologize that we are unable to accept your idea.May I take this opportunity to thank you once again for writing and best wishes to you.
 
If you require further assistance, please respond to this e-mail, or contact Lexus Customer Satisfaction at 1-800-255-3987, Monday through Friday, 5:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., or Saturday, 7:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., Pacific Time.
 
Sincerely,
 
Danielle Curtis
 
Lexus Customer Satisfaction
 Customer (willard west) 07/13/2009 10:43 AM
----- Original Message -----
From: Vera & Willard West
To: customer-satisfaction-inquirylexus.com
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:24 AM
Subject: Idea
 
Beginning with the RX330 Lexus used DBW to prevent the engine from rising in RPM until a previously engine/transaxle control ECU "commanded" transaxle downshift ran to completion.
 
Since the earlier RX300 used a mechanical coupling between the gas pedal and throttle plate the same technique could not be used.
 
On the other hand my '01's TC, Traction Control, dethrottles the engine via EFI fuel starvation control. Why couldn't Lexus use this same technique to "hold off" rising engine RPM/Torque for downshift delays...??
 
The throttle plate would still open, just as it does/is with TC activation, but the only harm in that is the engine ROARING to life once the downshift is completed. On the other hand there are circumstances with my RX300 wherein VSC activates and I am forced to completely release and the re-apply pressure to the gas pedal before the engine will respond at all.
#276 of 306
Re: NIH...?? [wwest] by steve_ HOST
Jul 15, 2009 (5:09 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Jul 15, 2009 2:28 pm)

Usually when a company does that, they don't even look at the suggested idea so they can avoid any claims later if they come up with a similar idea in-house.
 
Now you can race them to the patent office.
#277 of 306
2003 transmission trouble by biking
Jul 19, 2009 (5:20 pm)
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I have a 2003 RX300 SUV 70,000 miles - transmission died, like most, I have had all services done as scheduled at the Lexus dealer. I have spent 1 1/2 weeks calling customer service trying to get help paying for the estimated $5300 "new" transmission. No one returns calls, I am so frustrated (and yet very happy to be driving the Chrysler PT cruiser convertible they loaned me). Has anyone had trouble with 2003 or this low mileage issue? Warranty was 6 years (which was up end of Dec) or 70,000 miles. This just disgusts me. I welcome all suggestions.
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Re: 2003 transmission trouble [biking] by la4mead
Jul 19, 2009 (6:06 pm)
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Replying to: biking (Jul 19, 2009 5:20 pm)

Suggestions? Be polite and positive with the CS folks, but keep pressuring them. It seems out-of-warrantee concessions are made based on loyalty both in the past as well as future. It's certainly no secret that the original transmission is not terribly stout (it seems especially so on low mileage service), and normal maintainence does not include proper transmission service. The service reps know about all the Technical Service Bulletins on this model. Other folks with out-of warrantee claims have earned big discounts toward the cost of a replacement, especially to loyal customers just barely out of warrantee. Keep on them politely.
 
Read more about other experiences in this forum. Please report back.
 
Good luck. It sounds like your car is worth a new transmission, if that's any consolation to you at all.
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Re: 2003 transmission trouble [biking] by avery1
Jul 20, 2009 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: biking (Jul 19, 2009 5:20 pm)

If polite pressure doesn't work call several other Lexus dealers for their price and then call Toyota dealers. Some Toyota dealers work on Lexi and some don't. The Lexus dealer where I bought my car in '99 (now with 157,000 miles) hadn't seen me since the warranty ran out so I wasn't about to get a good customer discount. They originally quoted me $5700 for the "remanufactured" transmission. Another dealer 15 miles away quoted $4300 and the Toyota dealer 2 miles away quoted $4000. I got them to do it for $4300. That seemed reasonable since I would have owed them the cost of diagnosis and would have had to transport the car to the Toyota dealer and I thought it best to have Lexus do the work and I got to drive a new 2010 RX for the duration. From what I've read you can get it done even cheaper if you really check around, even with independent shops.
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Re: 2003 transmission trouble [avery1] by la4mead
Jul 20, 2009 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: avery1 (Jul 20, 2009 7:33 am)

Very good points. It pays to shop, especially if your preferred Lexus dealer matches another shops' price and still gives Lexus levels of service like a nice loaner.
 
It also seems that if you catch the problem in time while it's still driveable and they know you can take it to another shop, they are more likely to better their price. There does seem to be some competition even between Lexus dealers, especially if it's not so far gone that you can't drive it out of their shop.
 
But in your case, since you were just barely out of warrantee, I'd keep the pressure on for even more discount... but you have to be willing to be patient.
 
Please let everyone know what happens.
#281 of 306
not the transmission by biking
Jul 31, 2009 (9:58 am)
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Well, as it turns out, the transmission seems to be fine and the whole mess appears to stem from a bad celenoid. The service people apparently didn't pay attention when I explained the problem (which was that the car refused to move out of park into any other gear). However, until this new diagnosis, the Lexus company was offering to cover the cost of parts and my Lexus dealer was going to pay 20% of the labor cost. My portion was going to be about $1800 out of the original quote of $5300. All in all, I am pleased with how it turned out (as of right now). If anything new comes up I will post again.
#282 of 306
Re: Need a new transmission [2000rx300owner] by bendorrx300
Aug 14, 2009 (10:03 am)
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Replying to: 2000rx300owner (Jan 30, 2007 3:29 pm)

Our 2000 RX300 lost reverse gear in April 2008. After considerable arm twisting and documented references to online citations of transaxle failures in this vehicle, we shared the repair cost with Lexus, our part being $1,400. The one year warranty on the rebuilt transaxle replacement would lapse end of April 2009, so we documented on a Lexus service order (timing belt change) that the transaxle never had shifted properly and was getting worse by the day.
 
For the past 2 months, wife has been complaining about a high pitched whine coming from beneath the engine, nearby the transaxle. Sure enough, the hum got louder with time and yesterday the tach showed over-reving while at cruise, at a steady cruise of 40 mph, the engine would rev to 4,000 rpm, remain there while the vehicle under its own momentum, and then eventually pull back to 2,300 rpm or lower.
 
Driving down the parkway here in Bend at 50 mph, the clutch seemed to disengage, over-rev to 4,000 rpm and then re-engage the drive train with a distinct clunk. Pulled up to Cooley Road on 97 and waited in the turn lane 2 minutes while the traffic signals changed. Hit the throttle and the RX would not move forward, only showing 4,000+ rpm. Shifted to L on the gear shifter and limped out into traffic...such a dangerous situation! Pulled to the roadside and shut down the engine for 2 minutes and was then able to limp over to Lowe's parking lot where Consolidated Towing eventually brought a flatbed for the journey to Eugene.
 
We have yet to see if Lexus will honor the one-year warranty on the 2008 tranny job and IF they will also reimburse for the $130 of overmiles beyond my GE road club 100 mile limit. Obviously, we are distraught but have a loaner RX350 for free from the helpful, fantastically helpful, dealer in Eugene. Stay tuned for an update to this post and hope for the best outcome possible...no $$.
 
I cannot stress enough how dangerous this transmission issue was yesterday, to be caught in traffic and unable to control the driving process. There is no cell phone coverage for roughly 65% of the 126 miles to the dealer/repair shop, hence the other reason for taking the road club option on the car transport.
#283 of 306
RX300 Transmission Trouble by joy23
Aug 20, 2009 (9:03 am)
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I purchased a used 2003 RX300 with 40,000 miles on it. The transmission started giving me problems a few months after I purchased it (I am sure that it why it was traded in). I took it to a local transmission shop and they assured me that the transmission was going out. I took it to Lexus and they said it was not. I called the corporate office of Lexus and filed a complaint. After the warranty ran out (around 71,000 miles), the transmission got worse. I had already filed several complaints during that time, so Lexus replaced the transmission as if it were still under warranty. Now, 50,000 miles later, I need a new transmission???????? Lexus has offered to pay half of the cost of the transmission, as it has been over a year since they put the transmission in, but it has only been 50,000 miles since they replaced the transmission. I have 120,000 miles on my RX and I am on transmission #3. The dealership says they have never seen anything like this (after finding this website I now know they are lying). I am again in contact with the corporate office. The dealership has offered to pay half of the cost, leaving me with $2000 as my part. After only 50,000 miles and 2 transmissions, I don't think that I should be responsible for any of it. Why hasn't there been a recall on this? Why wasn't the issue with my transmission fixed the first time they replaced it? I don't know anything about cars, but this seems ridiculous to me.
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Re: RX300 Transmission Trouble [joy23] by biking
Aug 20, 2009 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: joy23 (Aug 20, 2009 9:03 am)

It seems to me that if the dealership is willing to pay 50%, that contacting customer service for some Lexus support would be the next step. I had good luck by staying calm but calling back on a regular basis to make sure that they were indeed dealing with the issue. If you can prove that the services have been done at a Lexus shop that also helps. It does seem that a 2003 should not have this much trouble, however, 120,000 miles is about the mileage where there have been issues (it seems like 90,000 is the critical point). Be polite and keep up the pressure is my advice.
Good luck.

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