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#126 of 436 Re: New Mazda3 comes with CHEAP tires [blanca58]
Oct 21, 2008 (5:35 am)
Same prob with my 2007 Mazda3 bought new from factory with Toyo Tires. Not convinced that it is the actual brand of tires causing the inside wear at 15k after reading the eight or so blogs/complaints about Maza 3s rear tire negative camber problems.
I took my car to Tires Plus in Port St. Lucie Fl and they called me into the garage to explain that the alignment computer is showing "factory specs" on all four wheels. They said there must be a factory defect in the car and to take it to the dealer and demand correction and a new set of tires or threaten Lemon Law !. I took it to the Mazda dealer in Stuart Fl and they said the car was fine and that I just had not rotated the tires each oil change. I went home not convinced and started searching on line finding all the forum write ups on the problem being extreme negative camber on the rear of most Mazda 3s. One forum explained how you could personally try to make your own corrections to the rear camber by turning the two hatchmarked adjustment bolts in or out on both rear wheels. This made sense seeing my problem started exactly at the same mileage a lot of the other forum writers stated. 17k on factory tires. I rotated my tires once since new at 14k moving the rear tires with the worn inner ridge to the front of my car. That is when I started noticing unusual tire/road noise. It threw me off because most tire wear is usually caused from front end misalignment. My front tires were fine and then they started wearing right away when I moved them to the rear. I noticed the wear was a little more extreme on one side than the other so I adjusted the rear camber on that side one and a half hatch marks and the other side only one hatch mark correction using two large 17mm box end wrenches with the car jacked up and with safety jack stands in place. You can actually see the correction to the negative camber when you turn the camber bolt in or out after loostening the threaded lock nut on the outside. You can notice the tops and bottoms of the tires moving in or out a little with each turn. Negative camber is when your wheels are tilting in at the top and out at the bottom. As you add weight to the car such as heavy passengers you will get even more negative camber on the rear wheels. The front wheels do not need camber adjustment and don't have an adjustment as far as I could see. After making the minor adjustments to my car I took my best tires and moved them up to the front hoping that I could get a little more out of them. I figure 30 to 40K would be fair. We'll see. I still have the road noise because of the previous wear damage. I haven't noticed any oversteer as a result of the minor adjustment which I considered an easy fix/job as car repairs go. Now I'm driving around behind every Mazda 3 I can catch up to in traffic and in parking lots observing the rear camber. It is amazing. Some are very easy to detect visually that the rear tires are tilting in at the top as compared to other cars . I stood behind a Mazda 3 five door the other day and couldn't believe how obvious the negative camber looked. Why the dealers are so misinformed or underhanded I don't know. It sure isn't ethical. Withl the problems they fix and diagnose, I wonder if the service managers ever read the forums to find out stuff that is affecting their customer's confidence. It probably has to do with them having to own up to a new set of tires for every complaint. That could be a lot more expensive than a routine alignment. On the other hand their reputation is at stake trying to hide stuff. Who would want a car that wears out a good set of very expensive tires every 15000 miles?
#127 of 436 Re: New Mazda3 comes with CHEAP tires [petesleaf]
Oct 23, 2008 (11:59 am)
I am having the same problem with my 06 tires. I have 24k on the car and have only had the car taken to the dealership for maintenance and they rotated the tires every time and they told me 5k ago that they were wearing down and now they say I need new tires. Is there anything I can do about this? They are toyo tires and I know that they should last at least 40k and if there is nothing that we can do and it's just a defect then can we get mazda to do something about it because it's ridiculous to shell out 500+ for tires and an alignment (by the way my alignment is definately off). I just don't feel for my 10 mile drive a day (to work and back) that I should have to pay for new tires 2 1/2 years in.
#128 of 436 Re: New Mazda3 comes with CHEAP tires [slaterac]
Oct 23, 2008 (12:14 pm)
I know I'm responding to my own post but I wanted to let you all know that if you are having the same problems as I am you can contact the NHTSA and file a complaint online at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints/results.cfm.
There have been 3 such complaints made so far and only one of them really had to do with the tires wearing down. Others say the Toyo tires are not made for the snow.
#129 of 436 Re: New Mazda3 comes with CHEAP tires [slaterac]
Oct 24, 2008 (5:18 am)
I called my dealership after work and told them about my tires and they said that they have found that more and more Mazda 3's wear on the tires faster and that no matter what tire you use they will probably wear out in 30k. It seems like Mazda should have a recall on this and fix this problem. It would cost 2k+ for new tires by 100k.
#130 of 436 Re: New Mazda3 comes with CHEAP tires [slaterac]
Oct 24, 2008 (5:42 pm)
Mazda 3's wear on the tires faster and that no matter what tire you use they will probably wear out in 30k.
That's just not true. I have seen the stock Goodyear Eagle RS-A's last past 40K on many Mazda3's that come into my store.
There are plenty of variables that attribute to tires wearing out. First, lack of proper rotation or proper inflation pressure. Second, aggressive driving. The Mazda3 is a compact the promotes sportiness. Many owners, unfortunately, assume their Mazda3 is an autocross car.
It seems like Mazda should have a recall on this and fix this problem.
There is nothing wrong with the Mazda3. The car does not magically make tires wear out faster. If there is something not right with your Mazda, out of alignment comes to mind, then your tires would wear unevenly. You would see uneven wear on the inner half or outer half. If the tires are wearing evenly, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the car.
Every vehicle on the road does go out of alignment from time to time. That's the nature of automobiles.
#131 of 436 Try Michelin Hydroedge
Oct 25, 2008 (8:34 am)
80,000 mi tire. Very high wear rating--it's a hard tire but has very aggressive tread pattern for water evacuation. Pretty good in the snow too. Costco has pretty good prices.
#132 of 436 Re: New Mazda3 comes with CHEAP tires [aviboy97]
Oct 25, 2008 (8:32 pm)
I got 26000 miles out of the Bridgestone RE050As on my Mazdaspeed 3. They probably would have lasted past 30K had I not tracked the car and driven it in a "spirited" fashion on the street...
#133 of 436 Need New Tires for 06 Mazda3 Hatchback 5spd
Oct 28, 2008 (8:30 pm)
Hi there -
I have about 34,000 miles on my original Goodyear Eagle RS-A tires. They are slick as a bottle of tire shine on ice. I am looking for a decent all season tire that is good both in wet conditions, snow, and holds up to the "estimated" mileage warranty. I don't want to pay more than $125 a tire though. As I navigate Tirerack.com I see the best sellers under my car tire category.
1- Kumho Ecsta ASX ($90/each) 205/50R17
2- Dunlop SP Sport Signature ($105/each) 205/50R17
3- Bridgestone Potenza G 019 Grid ($115/each) 205/50R17
I do like to drive fast at times and enjoy corners so you could say I have the zoom zoom type mentality.
What would you suggest out of these three tires? Also, is there a better, read cheaper website to order from?
#134 of 436 Re: Need New Tires for 06 Mazda3 Hatchback 5spd [slicktires]
Oct 29, 2008 (2:32 pm)
I've run Kumhos on several of my cars and I currently have a set on my Three Series. Tire Rack provides such good service and value that I haven't felt the need to look elasewhere.
#135 of 436 Re: Need New Tires for 06 Mazda3 Hatchback 5spd [slicktires]
Oct 29, 2008 (4:04 pm)
I replaced the tires on my '91 Integra with the Bridgestone Potenza G 019 last fall. They were quiet and had great traction, but felt very soft when cornering. The car used to be very tight with the old Michelin Pilots, but the Bridgestones felt like they belonged on a Buick. I replaced the Integra with my 2008.5 Mazda3 Touring hatch in May, and I love how tight it feels when cornering. I'll spend a little extra money on my 3 when it's time to get new tires, and probably stick with Michelin.
You might try www.discounttiredirect.com for another option to the Tirerack. Good Luck.