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#837 of 965 Re: 2008 Avalon Lights - High Beam Lights [avalon1owner]
Sep 07, 2011 (6:04 pm)
I sympathize as someone who has spent many hours and hundreds of dollars dealing with a clearly defective headlight design in the '08 Avvie--esp the HID lights.
But...As host Kirstie had pointed out in earlier post, class action lawsuits are useless, and IMHO are a huge scam perpetuated by the legal industry. As an individual participant in a class action, the best you can hope for is a "gift certificate" for $50 towards the purchase of your next Toyota, or some other equally stupid, meaningless compensation, assuming you win the suit.
The ONLY ones who profit are the lawyers, who run to the bank with the 30% of the settlement worth millions, laughing at the suckers who initiated the suit in the first place. What a joke.
I'm with Kirstie. Apply leverage where you can, on a local level. Keep your expectations reasonable. And buy a Ford next time.
#838 of 965 Class action not an option
Sep 10, 2011 (3:02 am)
Guys- My original post was done out of being momentarily irritated and never intended for action. Too much a pain in the butt to deal with lawyers. Instead I had two high-beam light bulbs replaced at the dealership at no labor charge and worked the bigger issue as a nice guy with my dealership. They took it to Toyota Regional which agreed to pay half the cost of replacing the lighting system resulting in my cost being less than $225. My system doesn't sync with the wheel direction which must be the reason it's not as expensive as others quoted. Heck of a lot cheaper and less stress than a lawsuit which I agree is not productive.
#839 of 965 Class Action? not....
Sep 10, 2011 (4:50 pm)
The summary of the many posts here should be this: vote with your wallet. I grew up on Ford and GM products. Bought them, drove them, raced them, etc..... till the mid 1990's. At that point the quality had dropped off so I went foreign, bought a Honda v6.. last American purchase was a Ford T-bird in '95. It's been Honda, Toyota and Nissan in our extended family ever since. Three Avalons (to stay on topic) so far, six v6 Hondas and two Altimas. All have been wonderful.
American makes have made a recent comeback in both style and dependability, yes. But it will take a lot to get me back in an Ford or GM product. The Japanese names are simply too good overall from my experience. Would not touch a new Benz or a BMW either although some models are better than average in reliability. Again, if you don't like it... don't buy it..... they will make it better or go out of business.
#840 of 965 Headlight Issue
Sep 14, 2011 (4:11 am)
I found the following at:
20000 EXTERIOR LIGHTING
Bulletin No: SB-0044-10 R
Date of Bulletin: 05/26/2011
TOYOTA: ON SOME 2008-2010 AVALON VEHICLES, THE HIGH BEAM LIGHT BULBS MAY NOT WORK OR SHATTER. *RM
Unfortunately, I cannot find any other information on this issue.
#841 of 965 Re: Headlight Issue [aus1]
Sep 14, 2011 (6:30 am)
A complete printout of this bulletin (TSB-0044-10 Rev. 1) can be obtained from the NHTSA website for a fee. It is item no. 10037591.
I have found free TSB details in the past, but this one does not seem to be available.
#842 of 965 Re: 2008 Avalon Lights - High Beam Lights [baseballmom4]
Sep 27, 2011 (5:56 pm)
The local dealer quoted me a price of $265.00 each to replace the hi beam bulbs on my daughter's 2008 Avalon. And $1,465.00 each to replace the entire headlight assembly. I purchased bulbs from O'Reilly's for $50.00 each and it takes about 5 minutes to replace them. The dealer was just trying to rip me off.
I also noticed that one of the lo beam lights works intermittently. Don't know if it is the bulb or the power supply.
#843 of 965 Re: 2008 Avalon Lights - High Beam Lights [slharp]
Sep 27, 2011 (6:28 pm)
you should go back and read the series of posts that I and others have made concerning the dreaded, POS HID headlights (assuming you have a Limited with the HID bulbs). Intermittent failure is almost inevitably a sign of impending bulb failure. Unfortunately, unlike the high beams, the HID bulbs are extremely difficult to replace. There have been some who have done it, but they describe a process well beyond someone like me. I have replaced mine twice in my '08 Limited. Each time I've had my buddy, who owns a body shop, replace the bulbs. He found the easiest way to do it was to drop the front bumper (!). Fortunately, he charged me only around $100 to install, on top of the roughly $50 for each bulb (purchased online--second time I bought name brand bulbs as the first set of no names I bought lasted only about a year). That was MUCH better than the obscene $800 my Toyota dealer wanted to do the job. The HID bulbs are a well-known weak point for these Avvy's, and one of many reasons I won't be buying a Toyota again.
#844 of 965 Re: 2008 Avalon Lights - High Beam Lights [mlingga]
Sep 28, 2011 (8:26 am)
Likely isn't the bulbs themselves but the heat being trapped inside the headlight assembly.
#845 of 965 Re: 2008 Avalon Lights - High Beam Lights [mlingga]
Sep 28, 2011 (9:16 am)
I have an '08 Avalon Touring (150k) with HID bulbs and have replaced the hi-beams 3 times (found a lower cost bulb on internet) and recently had to replace the D4R HID bulb-again there are lower cost alternatives (www.hidnation.com). It was not that difficult to replace. You must remove the battery and loosen the fuse box and then it is as easy as any other car.
#846 of 965 2008 avalon low beam head light doomed again
Oct 10, 2011 (9:08 am)
my passenger side low beam headlight was not working year before. Bought a new HID bulb and fixed it myself. It worked for a year now, again gone.
This seem to be really a manufacture defect. Toyota has to accept and fix it with no charge further.