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Re: Clicking / Grinding noise in front end? [aus1] by ncee
Feb 05, 2009 (3:19 am)
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Replying to: aus1 (Feb 05, 2009 1:16 am)

Hi. Yeah I'm going to, as the noise(s) from under the car are getting worst and more frequent:(
 
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popping sound from lower windshiled by jpm1908
Feb 05, 2009 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: aus1 (Feb 05, 2009 1:16 am)

The noise that I get (it seems when it is cold) is a popping sound that seems to come from where the windshield meets the dashboard on the drivers side.
 
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Re: Clicking / Grinding noise in front end? [ncee] by wwest
Feb 05, 2009 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: ncee (Jan 31, 2009 4:54 am)

Brake light switch always on.....
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Re: Clicking / Grinding noise in front end? [ncee] by joshuag
Feb 05, 2009 (10:50 am)
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Replying to: ncee (Jan 31, 2009 4:54 am)

I don't know about the grinding noise, but on the transmission issue, the Avalon does have some issues. My cousin has a 2005 Avalon Limited, and the transmission does occasionally has to be 're-flashed' they call it. Sometimes the transmission will do a weird shift, or seems to get stuck, only for a couple of seconds. I personally think Toyota should have addressed this problem before they keep sticking this flawed transmission into their cars.
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Re: Clicking / Grinding noise in front end? [joshuag] by tkevinc1
Feb 06, 2009 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: joshuag (Feb 05, 2009 10:50 am)

Not defending Toyota but the transmission in the 2008 is a new 6speed and is completely different than the 2005. I owned both and the difference in driveability is amazing. However, Toyota apparently not properly address an issue around the junction of the steering box and column. There were "bad welds" but this is more likely a design issues. They had to replace the steering box in my 2005 due to the very same clicking/grinding sound described here. There was even a TSB. You might want to ask them to check this.
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by ncee
Feb 06, 2009 (5:58 am)
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Well hopefully I find out today.
 
I just dropped it off, for the 3rd time. The first 2 times they said they couldn't find anything. On my way to the dealership, I heard it 8 times, including once turning into the parking lot. I had them take a ride with me, right then, and we turned left twice. Once out of the parking lot, and once back into the parking lot (all in the span of 50 yards) - it made the noise both times, and more then loud enough to hear. He said "Well I heard it, you are not crazy". "This will make it easier to figure out".
 
Here's hoping.
 
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Re: Clicking / Grinding noise in front end? [tkevinc1] by wwest
Feb 06, 2009 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: tkevinc1 (Feb 06, 2009 5:46 am)

"...new 6speed...."
 
But with the very same 1-2 second transaxle downshift delay/hesitation according to the description for the (same..??) new 6 speed in the 2010 RX350.
 
The problem arose from Toyota's adoption of "real-time" ATF line pressure control along with "abolition" of the ATF line pressure accumulator back late in the last century. With no accumulator and the engine at idle or nearly so the ATF pump can not be relied upon to supply quick "make-up" line pressure, say when two sequential gear changes are required in QUICK succession.
 
Ford is using the same FE improving technique but with a variable displacement ATF pump so "high" pump volumes/pressures can still be attained with the engine idling but virtually nil at high engine RPM.
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by ncee
Feb 06, 2009 (1:13 pm)
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Well they ordered a axle today, and when it comes in, and they then take it apart, they will see if thats the problem.
 
They said everything pointed to the axle, but if they take apart I would be without the car for a few days? They didn't have a car they could let me use for a few days???
 
Now if that isn't the problem when the part comes in, the will have to provide me with a loaner, as my car will be torn down.
 
They said the part should be here next Tuesday, and unless something happens before then, I have an appointment to drop if off next Friday afternoon.
 
I'll let folks know the out come.
 
So based on the above comments, this may be a temporary fix? Replacing the part, but not fixing the issue surely isn't the way to FIX the problem … or is it?
 
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Re: Clicking / Grinding noise in front end? [ncee] by amauhry
Feb 06, 2009 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: ncee (Jan 31, 2009 4:54 am)

Skip,
 
It is very possible the noise you hear coming from the front left corner of your vehicle is that of the brake actuator motors for the ABS, traction control and VSC systems, which are controlled by solenoid valves. The valve themselves are a little bit noisy, with the motors being the noisiest. This operation is required in order to monitor the integrity (safe/fail) of the above systems. I do hear a subtle grinding noise coming from the front left side of my car, but I’m confident there’s nothing wrong with it.
 
Now about your transmission:
The anchor-dragging effect you feel when you release the gas pedal is normal. Upon releasing the gas pedal your automatic transmission downshifts in order to slow down the car. The Avalon transmission has high gear ratios on the low gears, specially the first gear (3.30:1). In other words this means, the higher the gear ratio the stronger the “engine-braking” force will be. It is that force you feel that is effectively slowing down your car dramatically, which is primarily due to the high gear ratios on the reduction gears. If you are very familiar with all these concepts I can give you more in-depth details of how the Avalon’s tranny works. I also have the same experience with my transmission, but I’m confident there’s nothing wrong with it.
 
Another point you should know is, when the engine coolant and transmission fluid temperature is cold your tranny will cycle between first, second and third gear only; the colder the temperature the longer the tranny will remain in this state. This restriction makes the tranny behaves a bit "abnormal"; however, when the vehicle reaches operating temperature (gauge temperature needle in you dash is half-way) your tranny will cycle through any gear depending on your speed only.
 
Amaury
'08 Limited
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Re: Clicking / Grinding noise in front end? [amauhry] by wwest
Feb 06, 2009 (7:10 pm)
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Replying to: amauhry (Feb 06, 2009 2:40 pm)

"...The anchor-dragging effect...when you release the gas pedal is normal...."
 
NOT, NO, NEVER...!!!
 
There are NO automatic transmissions and absolutely NO FWD or F/awd modern day vehicle that will automatically downshift when the driver releases the gas pedal. For FWD or F/awd that would be 'way too dangerous. Almost all transaxles will actually upshift in this circumstance.
 
On the other hand if you should apply the brakes even ever so lighty you might encounter this "anchor-dragging" effect.
 
On the "third" hand, if the gas pedal is released QUICKLY while the transaxle is still in a low gear (1st..??) the ECU will assume the intent is to slow the vehicle using engine compression braking and remain in the lower gear.
 
But an actual downshift, not..!!
 
Unless you then apply the brakes, maybe.

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