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Re: Mobil 1 Oil [tfelton]
by rpfingsten
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Jan 05, 2009 (1:24 am)
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Replying to: tfelton (Jan 04, 2009 9:58 am)
tfelton....Like you I have used Mobil 1 synthetic for a number of years. I have not heard or read about the system you discussed of changing the filter and oil on different intervels. If I'm understanding you correctly that means that you would basically be changing your oil ever 12K correct? Well Mobil 1's extended life Synthetic is supposed to be good for 15,000 miles. But here again I think when you change your oil is also dependent on your driving conditions. I still change mine ( oil and filter ) every 5 k. but that's because the manufacturer calls for oil changes every 5,000 miles and since the warranty is still in effect I don't want to give them any "outs" if something were to go wrong... but I'm pretty sure once the warranty expires, I'll be changing my oil and filter every 7500 miles.. going 12 K seems like pushing it to me... however your talking to an old schooler where we learned to change oil and filter ever 3,000. miles.
Roland
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synthetic oil wear
by mlingga
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Jan 05, 2009 (6:26 am)
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tfelton:
Can you document the statement that "there is more wear on the motor with fresh synthetic than with broken-in synthetic?" This sounds totally illogical, and strikes me as likely another example of the urban myths that have grown around synthetics (i.e. "synthetic oils do not allow an engine to break in correctly" and "synthetic oils don't contain zinc additives so bearings wear out faster"--both of which are nonsense).
How an oil would become better with wear is unclear to me. Happy to be taught otherwise though, so I'd love to see your source of information.
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Re: synthetic oil wear [mlingga]
by tfelton
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Jan 05, 2009 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: mlingga (Jan 05, 2009 6:26 am)
Here's the link regarding oil life:
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/oil-life.html
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- #497 of 626
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XM and Bluetooth on 2008
by joeblack1
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Jan 05, 2009 (1:55 pm)
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Does the 2008 come with XM and Bluetooth?
I think if you get the upgraded JBL sound system on the 2009 it includes both, but not sure about the 2008.
I'm also curious about VSC. I believe this is included on the 2009 but an option on the 2008? If so, is there a package that it generally comes with? Just trying to find an easy way to identify cars with these options as I'm shopping for used if I can get one with these options.
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Re: text button for stereo [mackabee]
by Mike0853
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Jan 05, 2009 (5:09 pm)
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Replying to: mackabee (Sep 12, 2007 7:12 pm)
I just took my '08 Avalon Limited in for service with same complaint about text button. I compared with FM stations in my wife's '05 Sienna, she was getting text, but I wasn't on the same stations. Service department invoice states my complaint as "Text on radio is not appearing for name of station." Their response is "Could not find any abnormal condition." I don't think anyone at my dealer's place understands how the text button works, because no one in sales or service ever said it doesn't work with FM like previous Toyota radios. Now that I look at the owner's manual more closely, the only places it talks about the text button is in sections about the XM radio and CD, so I'm assuming now it only works in those modes.
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Re: XM and Bluetooth on 2008 [joeblack1]
by pasqvinc
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Jan 05, 2009 (7:04 pm)
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Replying to: joeblack1 (Jan 05, 2009 1:55 pm)
I just purchased a 2008 Avalon XLS without navigation at the end of December. The JBL radio (upgrade) does have bluetooth and is XM capable - you still have to subscribe to it.
VSC is now standard on the 2009 but is available on the 2008 as a stand alone option. Most of the XLS/Limited models that I looked at came with it anyway.
The option packages usually include the 8 way power passenger seat with heated front seats, or the memory mirrors/drivers seat which also includes the heated seats, although you may still be able to get the heated seats without the two mentioned upgrades - depends on what is available in your area. Hope this helps.
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Re: XM and Bluetooth on 2008 [pasqvinc]
by joeblack1
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Jan 06, 2009 (4:36 am)
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Replying to: pasqvinc (Jan 05, 2009 7:04 pm)
Yes, that helped a lot. Thanks! It sounds like if I want bluetooth and XM, then I should be looking at 2008 or better.
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Re: synthetic oil wear [mlingga]
by doug3030
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Jan 19, 2009 (6:14 pm)
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Replying to: mlingga (Jan 05, 2009 6:26 am)
My cousin is a chemical engineer for one of the big 3 auto makers and when I called him about the synthetic getting better with age, he stated that they performed many tests on cars using all types of oils and NO WAY do oils get better as they age. They found synthetic protects better from day one and continue to protect and lubricate best between recommended changes.I guess this explains why the vehicles I've owned over the years have gone at least 100k and some over 200k w/no significant oil consumption between changes.
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- #502 of 626
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Re: synthetic oil wear [doug3030]
by ncee
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Jan 20, 2009 (4:26 am)
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Replying to: doug3030 (Jan 19, 2009 6:14 pm)
I guess what it boils down to, is change your oil regularly, no matter what you use for oil, and you'll get plenty of miles from your vehicle.
I used regular oil in my Park AVenues and got 331,000 on one of them, AND it didn't burn any oil still.
My other Park avenue's both had high miles (but I got rid of them for the Avalon:)
Skip
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Re: synthetic oil wear [ncee]
by jpm1908
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Jan 20, 2009 (6:39 am)
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Replying to: ncee (Jan 20, 2009 4:26 am)
A Toyota dealership mechanic told me and he said that one can get away with every 10K when using synthetic. I was wondering if the Avalon warrantee stipulated the frequency of synthetic oil changes.
Regards-Jamie
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