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Re: Credit Cards [rpfingsten] by tfelton
Jan 04, 2009 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: rpfingsten (Jan 03, 2009 10:25 pm)

I have a Speed Pass and this experience of your wife's is a good reminder to be careful. It's no longer like 'the good old days' when you handed cash to the attendant who filled your tank. A receipt might have solved the problem right away. You can go to the Exxon/Mobil web site and set up your Speed Pass to always give a receipt.
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Mobil 1 Oil by tfelton
Jan 04, 2009 (9:58 am)
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Ever since I bought an '87 Taurus I've used Mobil 1 synthetic oil and I change my own oil, etc. I've also been very regular with regards to changing the oil and filter about every 7,500 miles. However, I just read recently where you're better off changing the filter a couple of intervals, topping off the oil but not changing the oil. For example: changing the oil, then change the filter at 6,000; change the filter again at 12,000; and then change the oil and filter at 18,000. The reasoning is the it has been show there is more wear on the motor with fresh synthetic than with broken-in synthetic. I've sort of tried this with my '08 Avalon. This last Christmas we took a 3,000 trip to see family. I didn't need to change the oil yet, but would have half way through the trip so I simply changed the filter before I left. My Avalon has 16,000+ miles on it.
 
This is a long way of asking if anyone else has tried this system or read about it. Of course finding out if it's good or bad takes thousands of miles and then how do you know it was the oil that did in the motor. I have a '98 Sienna with 210,000+ miles on it and the motor still runs smooth and gets good mileage. With that car I changed oil and filter about every 7,500 miles.
 
One note, synthetic is a lot cheaper than it used to be so this isn't a question about saving money but is about doing the best for the car.
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Re: Mobil 1 Oil [tfelton] by rpfingsten
Jan 05, 2009 (1:24 am)
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Replying to: tfelton (Jan 04, 2009 9:58 am)

tfelton....Like you I have used Mobil 1 synthetic for a number of years. I have not heard or read about the system you discussed of changing the filter and oil on different intervels. If I'm understanding you correctly that means that you would basically be changing your oil ever 12K correct? Well Mobil 1's extended life Synthetic is supposed to be good for 15,000 miles. But here again I think when you change your oil is also dependent on your driving conditions. I still change mine ( oil and filter ) every 5 k. but that's because the manufacturer calls for oil changes every 5,000 miles and since the warranty is still in effect I don't want to give them any "outs" if something were to go wrong... but I'm pretty sure once the warranty expires, I'll be changing my oil and filter every 7500 miles.. going 12 K seems like pushing it to me... however your talking to an old schooler where we learned to change oil and filter ever 3,000. miles.
 
Roland
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synthetic oil wear by mlingga
Jan 05, 2009 (6:26 am)
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tfelton:
Can you document the statement that "there is more wear on the motor with fresh synthetic than with broken-in synthetic?" This sounds totally illogical, and strikes me as likely another example of the urban myths that have grown around synthetics (i.e. "synthetic oils do not allow an engine to break in correctly" and "synthetic oils don't contain zinc additives so bearings wear out faster"--both of which are nonsense).
 
How an oil would become better with wear is unclear to me. Happy to be taught otherwise though, so I'd love to see your source of information.
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Re: synthetic oil wear [mlingga] by tfelton
Jan 05, 2009 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: mlingga (Jan 05, 2009 6:26 am)

Here's the link regarding oil life:
 
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/oil-life.html
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XM and Bluetooth on 2008 by joeblack1
Jan 05, 2009 (1:55 pm)
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Does the 2008 come with XM and Bluetooth?
I think if you get the upgraded JBL sound system on the 2009 it includes both, but not sure about the 2008.
 
I'm also curious about VSC. I believe this is included on the 2009 but an option on the 2008? If so, is there a package that it generally comes with? Just trying to find an easy way to identify cars with these options as I'm shopping for used if I can get one with these options.
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Re: text button for stereo [mackabee] by Mike0853
Jan 05, 2009 (5:09 pm)
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Replying to: mackabee (Sep 12, 2007 7:12 pm)

I just took my '08 Avalon Limited in for service with same complaint about text button. I compared with FM stations in my wife's '05 Sienna, she was getting text, but I wasn't on the same stations. Service department invoice states my complaint as "Text on radio is not appearing for name of station." Their response is "Could not find any abnormal condition." I don't think anyone at my dealer's place understands how the text button works, because no one in sales or service ever said it doesn't work with FM like previous Toyota radios. Now that I look at the owner's manual more closely, the only places it talks about the text button is in sections about the XM radio and CD, so I'm assuming now it only works in those modes.
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Re: XM and Bluetooth on 2008 [joeblack1] by pasqvinc
Jan 05, 2009 (7:04 pm)
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Replying to: joeblack1 (Jan 05, 2009 1:55 pm)

I just purchased a 2008 Avalon XLS without navigation at the end of December. The JBL radio (upgrade) does have bluetooth and is XM capable - you still have to subscribe to it.
 
VSC is now standard on the 2009 but is available on the 2008 as a stand alone option. Most of the XLS/Limited models that I looked at came with it anyway.
 
The option packages usually include the 8 way power passenger seat with heated front seats, or the memory mirrors/drivers seat which also includes the heated seats, although you may still be able to get the heated seats without the two mentioned upgrades - depends on what is available in your area. Hope this helps.
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Re: XM and Bluetooth on 2008 [pasqvinc] by joeblack1
Jan 06, 2009 (4:36 am)
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Replying to: pasqvinc (Jan 05, 2009 7:04 pm)

Yes, that helped a lot. Thanks! It sounds like if I want bluetooth and XM, then I should be looking at 2008 or better.
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Re: synthetic oil wear [mlingga] by doug3030
Jan 19, 2009 (6:14 pm)
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Replying to: mlingga (Jan 05, 2009 6:26 am)

My cousin is a chemical engineer for one of the big 3 auto makers and when I called him about the synthetic getting better with age, he stated that they performed many tests on cars using all types of oils and NO WAY do oils get better as they age. They found synthetic protects better from day one and continue to protect and lubricate best between recommended changes.I guess this explains why the vehicles I've owned over the years have gone at least 100k and some over 200k w/no significant oil consumption between changes.

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