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Sedans with V8s under $40K

29 messages,  Last post on Jun 08, 2009 at 7:25 PM

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Re: Avalon does not have a V-8 [luvmbooty] by luvmbooty
Jan 16, 2007 (9:01 pm)
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Replying to: luvmbooty (Jan 16, 2007 7:59 pm)

How about comparing the Impala and the Lucerne?
 
Impala has more Hp, better gas mileage, weighs less, a smaller turning circle, 40-60 folding rear seats, cloth seats, and has 8 way adj driver seat .
 
Lucerne comes with self leveling suspension, optional stability control, leather seats, rain sensing front wipers, 6 way adj driver seat, only rear center arm rest pass thru, rear heat vents, 2 driver seat memorized settings, electrochromatic driver's outside mirror, cornering lights, optional parking assist, automatic climate control, and slightly better warranty.
 
Lucerne does have more goodies but costs almost 3 grand more. Also Edmunds Editors' gave the 2006 Lucerne CXL V8 an overall rating of 7.2. This is what the Editors had to say,"Power is seriously lacking from this V8, and interior appointments do little to improve its overall perceived value. Average."
 
No Editors' rating on the 2006 Impala SS, but a Full Test by Edmunds John Pearly Huffman, Contributor says," What is important is how it(Impala) stacks up against the Honda Accord and Toyota Camry and most directly the rear powered, Hemi-Charger R/T." Also,"In the age of the $29,000 V6 Camry, we think that makes the SS a good value."
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Re: Sedans with V8s under $40K [luvmbooty] by dodgeman07
Jan 16, 2007 (9:01 pm)
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Replying to: luvmbooty (Jan 15, 2007 9:10 am)

Hey - Thanks for setting up this thread. I'm considering a V8 sedan for my next purchase (likely a used '07 this fall).
 
I'd like to hear from anyone on the Impala SS vs. Lucerne V8. Is the Impala much louder inside? Does the Buick "Quiet Tuning" really make much difference? I drove an '07 LaCrosse CXS and it wasn't much different than my '04 Malibu (sound & power).
 
What about the Buick Northstar vs. the 5.3L in the SS? Real world mileage much different?
 
Thoughts and opinions are welcome.
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Re: Avalon does not have a V-8 [luvmbooty] by dodgeman07
Jan 16, 2007 (9:06 pm)
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Replying to: luvmbooty (Jan 16, 2007 9:01 pm)

Thanks for the info. The power comment about the Lucerne really surprises me. I'll have to look that up. Any comments about interior noise? I do like a quiet car. At least on the inside!
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Re: Sedans with V8s under $40K [dodgeman07] by luvmbooty
Jan 16, 2007 (9:07 pm)
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Replying to: dodgeman07 (Jan 16, 2007 9:01 pm)

Now that I think about it with these sedans why would you want the V8? Obviously for the power which the Lucerne is lacking.
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Re: Avalon does not have a V-8 [dodgeman07] by luvmbooty
Jan 16, 2007 (9:20 pm)
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Replying to: dodgeman07 (Jan 16, 2007 9:06 pm)

From Editors' rating of 2006 Lucerne:
Wind noise scored 9 out of 10. Comment:This is a quiet car.
 
Road noise scored 8 out of 10. Comment:Cabin is serene at any speed.
 
In the article about the Impala, Huffman states, "But it(Impala) rides better(than the Charger R/T), is slightly quieter and is completely confident in everyday use."
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Re: Sedans with V8s under $40K [luvmbooty] by xtec
Jan 17, 2007 (2:47 pm)
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Replying to: luvmbooty (Jan 16, 2007 9:07 pm)

Under your own specs you show the Crown Vic and Marquis has
less power then the Lucerne.I'm not A GM fan but the Lucerne
looks like the best Buick in A long time,and 275HP is not bad.
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Re: Sedans with V8s under $40K [xtec] by dodgeman07
Jan 17, 2007 (3:11 pm)
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Replying to: xtec (Jan 17, 2007 2:47 pm)

and 275HP is not bad
 
I'll have to drive one - but I feel the same way. 275HP is more than enough and if I go for the Buick, I gotta have the V8.
 
The Impala is much quicker but in quietness and NVH, it's got to be a touch less refined.
 
Anybody with driving experience in both?
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Re: Sedans with V8s under $40K [dodgeman07] by martin22
Jan 17, 2007 (7:33 pm)
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Replying to: dodgeman07 (Jan 17, 2007 3:11 pm)

We bought an Impala SS 5 months ago and, with 5,000 miles notched up, I can honestly say I have not had one ounce of buyer's remorse. The ride is confident, quiet and smooth and we are more than pleased with all the 'surprise & delight' features it carries. Why, only the other day, I discovered the lights come on after the wipers have been switched on. I don't recall seeing that in the manual. For sure, 303hp is much more than adequate but one does not have to use all that and that sweet V8 burble is always a delight.
 
As for the Buick, well, I'm 65 and I don't think I'm old enough to consider one of those for a few years yet!
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Re: Sedans with V8s under $40K [martin22] by quietpro
Jan 17, 2007 (8:12 pm)
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Replying to: martin22 (Jan 17, 2007 7:33 pm)

I'm had my '06 SS for a little over a year now. I agree with everything Martin22 says but I will add one criticism. After riding/driving my sister's Impala LT, I noticed her car rides and handles better, most likely due to the lighter-weight engine.
 
As for the niceties, I'll add the high beams are awesome since all four headlamps are used. It's the best night vision I've had since my buddy's '81 Impala. There's nothing like four headlamps.
 
For those asking about real world mileage, I track mine religiously. The best I've gotten is 26 mpg at speeds between 65 - 70 mph. Once you get up to 75 or more, mileage drops off quickly because the DOD won't engage at the higher speeds.
 
Wind noise is modest but after 16,000 miles, the tires seem to be getting a bit noisy. I attribute that to the low profile 50 series tires and the fact that they are Goodyear...not a big fan.
 
Any other questions?
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Re: Sedans with V8s under $40K [xtec] by luvmbooty
Jan 17, 2007 (9:44 pm)
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Replying to: xtec (Jan 17, 2007 2:47 pm)

Here is a list of 6 cylinders with over 250 Hp and costs considerably less than the Lucerne:
 
2007 Toyota Camry LE 3.5L 268Hp MSRP $24,160
2007 Saturn Aura XR 3.6L 252Hp MSRP $24,595
2007 Nissan Altima SE 3.5L 270Hp MSRP $25,115
2007 Hyundai Azera SE 3.8L 263Hp MSRP $25,195
2007 Pontiac G6 GTP 3.6L 252Hp MSRP $25,230
2007 Dodge Charger Base AWD 3.5L 250Hp MSRP $26,040
2007 Toyota Avalon XL 3.5L 268Hp MSRP $27,495
2007 Mitsubishi Galant Ralliart 3.8L 258Hp MSRP $27,624
2007 Nissan Maxima SE 3.5L 255Hp MSRP $28,665
 
2007 Buick Lucerne CXL V8 4.6L 275Hp MSRP $31,435
 
All MSRPs include Destination charge ONLY.
 
Why would you buy a vehicle with a V8 when you could save a few thousand dollars buying any of the V6s above? The difference in horses is small and you get better gas mileage. Notice there are 2 under $25K!
 
Why buy a V8 unless the difference in power is considerably higher like by 50 horses?
 
I might add that the Lucerne has a rebate of $1,250 till end of Feb. and the Maxima has a rebate of $1,500 till end of Jan. at least in my area(N.Y.).

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