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Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Chrysler 300, Ford Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis, Pontiac Grand Prix, Automotive News, Car Buying, Sedan
#17 of 29 Re: Sedans with V8s under $40K [xtec]
Jan 17, 2007 (10:44 pm)
Here is a list of 6 cylinders with over 250 Hp and costs considerably less than the Lucerne:
2007 Toyota Camry LE 3.5L 268Hp MSRP $24,160
2007 Saturn Aura XR 3.6L 252Hp MSRP $24,595
2007 Nissan Altima SE 3.5L 270Hp MSRP $25,115
2007 Hyundai Azera SE 3.8L 263Hp MSRP $25,195
2007 Pontiac G6 GTP 3.6L 252Hp MSRP $25,230
2007 Dodge Charger Base AWD 3.5L 250Hp MSRP $26,040
2007 Toyota Avalon XL 3.5L 268Hp MSRP $27,495
2007 Mitsubishi Galant Ralliart 3.8L 258Hp MSRP $27,624
2007 Nissan Maxima SE 3.5L 255Hp MSRP $28,665
2007 Buick Lucerne CXL V8 4.6L 275Hp MSRP $31,435
All MSRPs include Destination charge ONLY.
Why would you buy a vehicle with a V8 when you could save a few thousand dollars buying any of the V6s above? The difference in horses is small and you get better gas mileage. Notice there are 2 under $25K!
Why buy a V8 unless the difference in power is considerably higher like by 50 horses?
I might add that the Lucerne has a rebate of $1,250 till end of Feb. and the Maxima has a rebate of $1,500 till end of Jan. at least in my area(N.Y.).
#18 of 29 Re: Sedans with V8s under $40K [luvmbooty]
Jan 17, 2007 (11:02 pm)
All the V6s get better gas mileage except for the 2007 Dodge Charger AWD (17 city/24 highway) and the Mitsubishi Galant Ralliart (18 city/27 highway) with premium recommended but they are less expensive.
#19 of 29 Re: Sedans with V8s under $40K [luvmbooty]
Jan 18, 2007 (4:10 pm)
Thats fine you put up the list.but this is for V8 only site.If someone wants to buy a Lucerne let them,its not you buying it.And the Lucerne is a lot less then the 40k.You should of just set up this site for cars under 40k,then you could talk about the V6s,but you put in V8.
The Charger without the AWD and 3.5 is rated 19/27.
#20 of 29 Re: Sedans with V8s under $40K [quietpro]
Jan 18, 2007 (9:59 pm)
Thanks for the input. One question about seat comfort. It felt like the Impala LT rental I drove had less under thigh support than my Malibu. The seat cushion seemed shorter in this area. I only drove it one day, but I was not as comfortable as in my 'Bu.
Any comments on Impala seat comfort?
#21 of 29 Re: Sedans with V8s under $40K [luvmbooty]
Jan 19, 2007 (9:48 am)
Not everyone wants a noisy V6! Yes, I know some V6's produce more power than many V8's. Some are less noisy than other. However, there is something nice about low-rev torque and power and being quicker at the stop light. The V6 may be quicker in the 1/4 mile or 0-60 but I truly don't mind a big V8. (The domestics and the Europeans just need to remember how to build V8's that don't leak oil like a sieve! )
I'm not 60! I'm 34.
#22 of 29 Re: Sedans with V8s under $40K [dodgeman07]
Jan 20, 2007 (3:51 pm)
Let's compare torque and RPM numbers - horsepower only really matters above 4,000 rpm, which I don't think I've ever been north of in my old outdated Grand Marquis.
Let's stick to V-8's - the V-6 automobiles are all rather interchangable.
#23 of 29 Re: Sedans with V8s under $40K [jsylvester]
Jan 23, 2007 (9:34 am)
2007 Ford Crown Victoria: 272 lbs-ft 4000 rpms
2007 Mercury Grand Marquis: 275 lbs-ft 4000 rpms
2007 Buick Lucerne: 295 lbs-ft 4400 rpms
2007 Chevy Impala: 323 lbs-ft 4400 rpms
2007 Pontiac Grand Prix: 323 lbs-ft 4400 rpms
2007 Dodge Charger R/T: 390 lbs-ft 4000 rpms
2007 Chrysler 300 C: 390 lbs-ft 4000 rpms
2007 Dodge Charger SRT-8: 420 lbs-ft 4800 rpms
Nov 16, 2007 (6:25 am)
... this discussion will be revived once the Pontiac G8 GT V8 arrives....
Sometime next year....
#25 of 29 Re: perhaps... [rayainsw]
Nov 16, 2007 (10:54 am)
Just wish it had the Overhead Cam engine like the Cad instead of the old VIH that came out in 1949! Kettering was fine then, but today's standards are beyond VIH engines.
#26 of 29 Re: perhaps... [euphonium]
Oct 10, 2008 (2:36 pm)
A bunch of time has passed since euphorium's post but I just noticed it. VIH means valve-in-head -- every modern engine has it's valves in the heads. I think he is referring to OHV -- overhead valve -- a descriptor generally applied to pushrod engines with -- guess what -- valves in head, as opposed to side valves.
Chrysler deliberately designed & engineered a brand new version of their famous
herispherical combustion chamber OHV engine as a marketing gambit. The valve train layout is not a drawback at all, being every bit as effective for street use as a 2-valve OHC (overhead cam) design & rivals 3 & 4-valve OHC engines in perfortmance.
Chrysler's 3rd generation HEMI V8 is a thoroughly modern, lightweight, low internal friction, low emission, high output engine. It easily outperforms 2-valve OHC competitors (& similar Chrysler stable mates) in every single performance parameter, including specific fuel consumption. It is even cheaper to build than a similar sized high-output OHC V8 (or Chrysler's own old 5.9L OHV V8).
For Chrysler it is a marketing triumph, not only blowing the doors off the competition performance wise, but re-establishing the iconic HEMI name in the modern world.
I briefly had a 426 street Hemi Roadrunner in my youth -- it was fast, furious & totally uncivilised. The modern engine is a pure silk purse in comparison to that massively heavy & fuel gobbling old brute, while being every bit as powerfull on substantially less displacement. Don't pine for another cookie-cutter OHC engine -- this one is the real deal.