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Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Chrysler 300, Ford Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis, Pontiac Grand Prix, Automotive News, Car Buying, Sedan
#2 of 29 Re: Sedans with V8s under $40K [luvmbooty]
Jan 15, 2007 (9:10 am)
2007 Ford Crown Victoria (base): MSRP $24,620: Hp 224 4800 rpm
2007 Mercury Grand Marquis GS: MSRP $24,910: Hp 224 4800 rpm
2007 Chevy Impala SS: MSRP $27,970: Hp 303 5600
2007 Pontiac Grand Prix GXP: MSRP $28,745: Hp 303 5600
2007 Dodge Charger R/T: MSRP $30,215: Hp 340 5000
2007 Buick Lucerne CXL: MSRP $30,685: Hp 275 6000
2007 Chrysler 300 C: MSRP $34,385: Hp 340 5000
2006 Dodge Charger SRT-8: MSRP $35,320: Hp 425 6000
#3 of 29 Re: Sedans with V8s under $40K [luvmbooty]
Jan 15, 2007 (8:38 pm)
2006 Dodge Charger SRT-8 MPG: 14/20
2007 Ford Crown Victoria (base): 17/25
2007 Mercury Grand Marquis GS: 17/25
2007 Buick Lucerne CXL: 17/25
2007 Chrysler 300 C: 17/25
2007 Dodge Charger R/T: 17/25
2007 Pontiac Grand Prix GXP: 18/27
2007 Chevy Impala SS: 18/28
#4 of 29 Re: Sedans with V8s under $40K [luvmbooty]
Jan 15, 2007 (9:31 pm)
My take on these sedans is the Ford and Mercury are sadly out dated.
The Buick is starting to be out dated by cars like the Toyota Avalon.
The Charger and the 300 is really the same car underneath with little difference except for price making the Charger the better choice.
Also the Chevy and the Pontiac share the same engine. The Pontiac has a smaller interior and more expensive than the Chevy. Being that's the case I would go with the Impala. Also out of all these cars the Pontiac has the worst Government crash tests.
The Charger SRT-8, I think, is the most original and the worst gas guzzling out of the group. Too bad this sedan didn't come out 20 years ago. It would have had a great run.
Even though it has front wheel drive, I think the best choice would be the Chevy Impala. It isn't the fastest but it does have over 300 Hp and does return the best gas mileage. Also it has high crash scores and has a roomy interior and trunk. Not to mention has a more reasonable price.
#5 of 29 Avalon does not have a V-8
Jan 16, 2007 (1:42 pm)
Why is the Avalon even being mentioned in a V-8 discussion? Even mentioning it comparing to the Buick will get everyone all riled up just like it did in the other thread for large sedans for $30,000. We really don't need to read through another Lucerne vs. Avalon nightmare as fans of both are not going to change their minds and never let things die! PLEASE let's agree to only discuss V-8 sedans under $40,000!!!!!
#6 of 29 Re: Avalon does not have a V-8 [hardhawk]
Jan 16, 2007 (7:59 pm)
I mentioned the Avalon because technology is catching up to the Buick's V8 by a V6 like the Toyotas. The numbers don't lie. I just think if the Buick is going to compete with the other V8 engines they better find a better engine. Am I wrong?
If I'm spending that kind of money, I would want to get my moneys worth and maybe that's the answer. Maybe if Buick is unwilling to change the engine, it should lower the price of the car!
Now let me just say that I'm only comparing the engine because that is what this discussion is mainly about, the engine.
#7 of 29 Re: Avalon does not have a V-8 [luvmbooty]
Jan 16, 2007 (8:38 pm)
Your the one that set this up for V8 only yet your breaking your own rule for this discussion,I think you should stick with the title of the discussion,so A car with A V6 should not be on this board.I'm not trying to start trouble,but this is about V8s.Hardhawk,I agree with you.
#8 of 29 Re: Avalon does not have a V-8 [luvmbooty]
Jan 16, 2007 (9:01 pm)
How about comparing the Impala and the Lucerne?
Impala has more Hp, better gas mileage, weighs less, a smaller turning circle, 40-60 folding rear seats, cloth seats, and has 8 way adj driver seat .
Lucerne comes with self leveling suspension, optional stability control, leather seats, rain sensing front wipers, 6 way adj driver seat, only rear center arm rest pass thru, rear heat vents, 2 driver seat memorized settings, electrochromatic driver's outside mirror, cornering lights, optional parking assist, automatic climate control, and slightly better warranty.
Lucerne does have more goodies but costs almost 3 grand more. Also Edmunds Editors' gave the 2006 Lucerne CXL V8 an overall rating of 7.2. This is what the Editors had to say,"Power is seriously lacking from this V8, and interior appointments do little to improve its overall perceived value. Average."
No Editors' rating on the 2006 Impala SS, but a Full Test by Edmunds John Pearly Huffman, Contributor says," What is important is how it(Impala) stacks up against the Honda Accord and Toyota Camry and most directly the rear powered, Hemi-Charger R/T." Also,"In the age of the $29,000 V6 Camry, we think that makes the SS a good value."
#9 of 29 Re: Sedans with V8s under $40K [luvmbooty]
Jan 16, 2007 (9:01 pm)
Hey - Thanks for setting up this thread. I'm considering a V8 sedan for my next purchase (likely a used '07 this fall).
I'd like to hear from anyone on the Impala SS vs. Lucerne V8. Is the Impala much louder inside? Does the Buick "Quiet Tuning" really make much difference? I drove an '07 LaCrosse CXS and it wasn't much different than my '04 Malibu (sound & power).
What about the Buick Northstar vs. the 5.3L in the SS? Real world mileage much different?
Thoughts and opinions are welcome.
#10 of 29 Re: Avalon does not have a V-8 [luvmbooty]
Jan 16, 2007 (9:06 pm)
Thanks for the info. The power comment about the Lucerne really surprises me. I'll have to look that up. Any comments about interior noise? I do like a quiet car. At least on the inside!
#11 of 29 Re: Sedans with V8s under $40K [dodgeman07]
Jan 16, 2007 (9:07 pm)
Now that I think about it with these sedans why would you want the V8? Obviously for the power which the Lucerne is lacking.