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Ford Fusion, Lincoln MKZ, Mercury Milan, Automotive News
#453 of 508 Re: Ford, 2nd to last in reliability...i believe it [joeyrab]
Jan 13, 2013 (1:20 pm)
My experience with Ford's replicates yours. I don't see much quality difference between Ford and GM despite all the Ford hype about quality being job #1. Particularly after the warranty expires.
Jan 16, 2013 (5:20 pm)
"According to Polk Automotive, which tracks registration data for vehicles, the Ford brand had the highest loyalty rate of any brand among consumers in 2012. Polk has been handing out a loyalty award for 17 years. The firmís data is the best means of tracking consumer behavior because it can tell which households have vehicles from a certain brand and which ones continue to stay in the brand after a new vehicle is purchased.
Fordís loyalty rate for the brand is 61%. For Ford Motor Co., which includes Lincoln, it is 62%. The industry average is 48%."
Taglines May Help After All: Ford Ranks Highest in Customer Loyalty (Wall St. Journal)
Jan 18, 2013 (1:57 pm)
I am thinking of buying a 2010 Ford Fusion SE. Can anyone tell me how the reliability of these cars are, does anyone own an older own that may have some insight? I want to know if this car is going to last me many years to come. Thanks!
#456 of 508 Re: Reliability [lauramay80]
Jan 18, 2013 (2:18 pm)
I think 2010 is a good year for the Fusion. My brother bought a new 2010 Fusion sport and he's yet to have an issue with it.
Of course there are no guarantees, but I'd think a 2010 Fusion SE would be a fairly safe bet.
#457 of 508 Re: Reliability [lauramay80]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Jan 18, 2013 (4:23 pm)
Overall reliability looks to have gotten better starting in '08. We don't have Identifix data after '09 unfortunately, but the historical trend is good.
#458 of 508 Re: Reliability [lauramay80]
Jan 18, 2013 (4:48 pm)
I have a 2009 SEL V6 which isn't a direct comparison since the 2010 was pretty much a redesign and a new engine and I believe transmission. I know that Consumer Reports rates the 2009 very high in reliability and also since I have owned it from day 1, which was late October of 2008, I know that it is a great car. Though I am chomping at the bit for a new Fusion or an Optima SX. Promised my wife that I would run it for 8 years since we just bought a new 2012 Highlander Limited AWD back in May of 2012. Got about 4 years left if I can hold out. I do like the looks of the 2010 through 2012 Fusion. I don't think I have seen one 2013 Fusion outside a dealers lot yet.
#459 of 508 Good NA numbers, EU and pensions a concern
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Jan 29, 2013 (9:47 am)
"Strong North American profits will net record profit sharing checks of $8,300 on average for 45,800 hourly workers, to be paid March 14.
Ford reported its highest fourth-quarter pre-tax profit since the same period in 1999 at $1.7 billion or 31 cents per share, beating analyst expectations of 25 cents per share. Net income for the quarter was $1.6 billion despite losses in Europe of $732 million.
Bob Shanks, chief financial officer, had warned that Ford would lose more than $1.5 billion in Europe in 2012 and the year ended with a $1.8 billion loss in the region marked by economic upheaval and high unemployment."
Ford earns $1.6 billion net in 4Q (Detroit Free Press)
Ford worldwide pension deficit jumps to $18.7 billion (Detroit News)
#460 of 508 Re: Good NA numbers, EU and pensions a concern [steve_]
Jan 29, 2013 (12:01 pm)
Overall good news. Pensions are always a risk, especially with companies like these that were practically giving away the farm with their pension packages back in the automotive heydays.
About all there is left to do in some cases is hope the retirees die relatively young.
#461 of 508 Re: Good NA numbers, EU and pensions a concern [xwesx]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Jan 29, 2013 (12:52 pm)
There's a joke here somewhere about most of the retirees being stuck in Detroit, but I'll let that one slide.
The stock market isn't liking the EU news I guess, but it seems like stock movements in general are often in the opposite direction of the news.
#462 of 508 Re: Good NA numbers, EU and pensions a concern [steve_]
Jan 29, 2013 (1:46 pm)
Well, the problems in the EU are pretty serious, but that's the way things go. This world moves from crisis to crisis. Otherwise, what news would be worth reporting?
It wasn't too long ago that Ford stock was junk and worth pennies on the dollar.