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#429 of 490 Re: off to a fast start [steve_] by xwesx

Nov 02, 2012 (6:36 pm)

Replying to: Stever@Edmunds (Nov 02, 2012 12:05 pm)
Not surprising. It's a good-looking vehicle and the new kid on the block. I'm not sure if the pricing structure is comparable, but Ford is also offering some incentives, so that might make it more attractive.
 
In my opinion, this is a solid application of the corporate design, and I'd certainly consider it the more visually attractive of the two (vs. Prius V). I'm almost curious now how it compares to the V in terms of space usage & availability.

#430 of 490 xwesx... by iluvmysephia1

Nov 03, 2012 (1:54 pm)

In my opinion, this is a solid application of the corporate design, and I'd certainly consider it the more visually attractive of the two (vs. Prius V).
 
It's not even close, the Ford stomps the Prius in the looks department. Ford's recent quality woes are stretched by the ridiculously close margins in quality these days. I wouldn't hesitate a tad ta buy a new Ford C-Max Hybrid. They are ultra-cool. Really.

#431 of 490 Re: xwesx... [iluvmysephia1] by lemko

Nov 05, 2012 (7:40 am)

Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 03, 2012 1:54 pm)
Nice to see we've got a nicer-looking alternative to the Prius! If gas prices really get wacky, I might even check out a C-Max. How do prices of the C-Max compare to the Prius?

#432 of 490 Hey I am thinking... by iluvmysephia1

Nov 05, 2012 (2:52 pm)

without anything else new on the matter, is it Ford's new Microsoft product, Sync, that's causing about 85% of their quality problems (the 85% is a total guess on my part!)?

#433 of 490 Re: Hey I am thinking... [iluvmysephia1] by mtnman1

Nov 05, 2012 (3:15 pm)

Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 05, 2012 2:52 pm)
I do believe that is the main issues with Ford. Also, if I recall from my latest issue of CR, the fact that Ford has 3 vehicles that are too new to rate. Fusion, Escape, and can't think of the third. Ford is still a good brand. I do know that the Explorer and Edge were not recommended because of reliability issues. I still maintain that regardless of issues Honda, Prius, Subaru, and Volt owners will never admit they have issues. When CR sends out their yearly survey to Subscribers I think these owners will not answer totally honestly. I have no proof of course, but just in talking to many people that own these vehicles they seem to have a blind loyalty to them.

#434 of 490 Re: Hey I am thinking... [mtnman1] by dieselone

Nov 05, 2012 (3:38 pm)

Replying to: mtnman1 (Nov 05, 2012 3:15 pm)
I still maintain that regardless of issues Honda, Prius, Subaru, and Volt owners will never admit they have issues.
 
I've owned many different makes and I haven't treated any of them differently on a survey from JD or CU, well except for GM, I fill out as many surveys as I can to report how bad they suck;)
 
My Ford Touch has been a problem for Ford and so has the dual clutch transmission in the Focus. The one guy I know that owns a '12 Focus has had the trans replaced already.

#435 of 490 Not good... by iluvmysephia1

Nov 05, 2012 (6:21 pm)

My Ford Touch has been a problem for Ford and so has the dual clutch transmission in the Focus. The one guy I know that owns a '12 Focus has had the trans replaced already.
 
I would like ta think that here on Edmunds we could find truckloads of information on this in the Ford Focus threads. Eh?
 
Chime in, I too believe in utmost honesty when rating my vehicles. That's the only way ta treat those CR deals. Or tests.
 
Or reliability reports. JD Power, too. I can tell you that my 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS has been totally reliable and a ball ta drive. The battery I just installed set me back $101.20, but that's because the beautiful compact's battery needs 550 cold-cranking amps ta handle all of the advanced electronics on the car. Not a big deal, huh?
 
If I didn't know myself better I'd say I've become a Mitsubishi lifer. Of sorts.

#436 of 490 hitting bottom? by Stever@Edmunds HOST

Nov 09, 2012 (8:00 am)

"Ford workers angry about the automaker's plans to shutter a plant in Belgium broke windows and burned tires in a demonstration outside the company's European headquarters in Germany.
 
The automaker will not rule out more European capacity cuts if the auto market deteriorates further.
 
The situation in Europe remains "very volatile," CEO Alan Mulally said at a conference in Berlin on Wednesday."
 
Ford workers in Germany protest job cuts (Detroit Free Press)

#437 of 490 Re: hitting bottom? [steve_] by savetheland

Nov 25, 2012 (6:52 pm)

Replying to: Stever@Edmunds (Nov 09, 2012 8:00 am)
Europeans have a short temper. Something they don't like and they start riots, smash windows and burn cars and buildings. I wonder why someone choose to place auto-plants in Europe - labor is expensive and unruly and regulations do not allow any flexibility. They can smash windows and burn cars as much as they want but there is no way to stop train wreck. Sovereign defaults and austerity measures are coming and there will be more plant closures. Ford is ahead of curve and is doing tough but right thing to survive. I am not so sure about GM - they as usual kick can down the road. FIAT and Peugeot may go bankrupt if there are not government bailouts and believe national bailouts in EU are against law.

#438 of 490 12 percent margins by Stever@Edmunds HOST

Nov 26, 2012 (8:23 am)

"With car and truck sales on the rebound, all of Detroit's automakers are making money. But Ford Motor Co. is making a lot more on each vehicle it sells than its crosstown rivals do.
 
Ford's third-quarter operating margin in North America was 12 percent — the highest since the company began breaking out regional margins in 2000."
 
Ford leads rivals on profits per vehicle (Detroit News)
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