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Ford Profitable by 2010?

248 messages,  Last post on Dec 23, 2009 at 7:44 AM

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Well they did make a profit by british_rover
Nov 02, 2009 (7:14 am)
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and a pretty good one even excluding special items and with falling revenues at Ford Credit.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/business/03auto.html
 
http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=31244
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"winning in the auto business is all about winning on a global scale" by steve_ HOST
Dec 14, 2009 (2:10 pm)
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"2010 is setting up as a big year for the Dearborn automaker. The company is ending '09 on a roll it should carry over to next year. The latest sign: Ford of Europe boasted sales of 19 percent last month and will finish the year as the second best selling brand. Its 9.1 percent market share in Europe is its best since 1999."
 
Ford Eyes Big 2010 as Europe Sales Surge (CNBC)
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Re: A lot of money (a lot of profit?) [kernick] by british_rover
Dec 22, 2009 (10:29 am)
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Replying to: kernick (Oct 08, 2009 4:52 pm)

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/22/report-ford-altering-taurus-model-mix-to-buil- d-more-sel-sho-mo/
 
Seems that the more expensive models are outselling the more base models by a good margin. They are outselling them by so much that Ford needs to change their product mix. We will have to see if this holds up over the longer term but so far at least you are wrong.
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Re: "winning in the auto business is all about winning on a global scale" [steve_] by hackattack5
Dec 22, 2009 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 14, 2009 2:10 pm)

"2010 is setting up as a big year for the Dearborn automaker"
 
Why didn't I buy Ford stock at $1.50 I am thinking about buying a bunch of Ford stock at $9.50 what do you guys think?
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Re: "winning in the auto business is all about winning on a global scale" [hackattack5] by gagrice
Dec 22, 2009 (5:05 pm)
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Replying to: hackattack5 (Dec 22, 2009 12:40 pm)

I bought Ford at $1.76 and was getting ready to sell. I don't want to be greedy. Yet Ford could go a lot higher. I finally sold MCD that I bought at $14. My broker convinced me that Long Term Capital gains would go up next year. So I don't want to get screwed by the higher taxes.
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Re: "winning in the auto business is all about winning on a global scale" [gagrice] by deltheking
Dec 22, 2009 (6:36 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 22, 2009 5:05 pm)

So how and where do I buy Ford stocks? Can you help me out?
thanks.
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Re: "winning in the auto business is all about winning on a global scale" [deltheking] by steve_ HOST
Dec 22, 2009 (8:23 pm)
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Replying to: deltheking (Dec 22, 2009 6:36 pm)

It's a DOW stock so all you have to do is open a brokerage account, fund it with a bit of cash, and then buy some shares. There are plenty of traditional and discount brokerages out there (Merrill for traditional, Schwab for discount, and plenty of other even cheaper ones - figure $8 to $20 to do a trade). The brokerage will keep track of the shares you own and all you'll get is a statement every month.
 
Ford is doing good, relatively speaking, but just about every asset they hold is in hock, and they aren't out of the woods yet. There are probably safer investments out there. But if you have some "play" money hanging around, it's fun to invest and watch the market.
 
Check the Stocks discussion over in the Off Topic Chatter board.
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Re: "winning in the auto business is all about winning on a global scale" [deltheking] by gagrice
Dec 22, 2009 (8:29 pm)
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Replying to: deltheking (Dec 22, 2009 6:36 pm)

As Steve has pointed out you need a brokerage account. I did the buy in my 401K so will not see any capital gains until I have to start taking out at 70.5 years. Personally I think Ford is high now with all things considered. I don't give advice on stocks. Too much of a gamble.
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Re: "winning in the auto business is all about winning on a global scale" [steve_] by deltheking
Dec 22, 2009 (9:32 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 22, 2009 8:23 pm)

Thanks steve and gagrice for your help. Will check in the stocks discussion forums.
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Re: A lot of money (a lot of profit?) [british_rover] by kernick
Dec 23, 2009 (7:44 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Dec 22, 2009 10:29 am)

We will have to see if this holds up over the longer term but so far at least you are wrong.
 
Go back and read what I wrote, I said "after a few months", when the newness of the Taurus wears off. Given that there are 300M+ people in this country, thereis a miniscule amount of people who are going out and buying a Taurus at this time, and for the uniquness factor, it is not surprising they want a "nice" Taurus to show off.
The Taurus SHO appeals to the same type of people that a Pontiac G8 GT might have. As we saw with that vehicle there was a demand at the beginning, but the model didn't really do much to help Pontiac after those first few months now did it?
 
Consumers are tapped out; their home-equity is lousy, their governments at all levels are broke and raising taxes and fees. It's not a good environment to try and sell $30K+ vehicles when it is not a NEED. A much less expensive vehicle can get people around, and that's where the market-growth will be. Those that recognize that the country has declined economically will be the ones to benefit (just look at the value of the $, the trade-deficit, and the governement deficits).

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