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Re: German Cars [boozoo]
by midwest2ca
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Sep 03, 2007 (10:22 pm)
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Replying to: boozoo (Aug 18, 2007 3:41 pm)
Found this thread quite interesting, so I thought I'd reply again. I have to agree with boozoo's comments completely. If you are willing to maintain an Audi with the same diligence (and cost -- shop rates and parts considered) as an airplane, you will be very happy with an Audi, or any German make for that matter. While I'll agree that Japanese makes are more mechanically reliable, repairs are just as expensive. The basic trade-off is long-term reliability vs. driving experience. I'm not necessarily talking luxury here, I'm talking about steering response when correcting in a difficult curve; brake response and pedal feel in a hard stop, the timing of automatic shifts. I will also completely agree that German makes restore to new-like condition better than any other cars. A well-maintained Japanese cars might easily deliver a repair-free 150K (even 200K in some cases), but you will experience a gradual decline in the driving experience that dollars spent cannot make up for. A 10-yr-old Audi with new tires, struts, springs, shocks, brakes, steering rack & linkages will deliver the exact same ride as new. Again, your choice, a car you drive to 200k with no repair costs, or a car you spend some money on and still smile at the way it corners and shifts after 10 years of driving it.
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Re: *Yawn* [pistol_pete1]
by peache1
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Sep 07, 2007 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: pistol_pete1 (Aug 05, 2007 5:03 am)
My 2001 has 70K and is going away. The level of serious and less so mechanical failures is unacceptable. Under warranty the coolant recovery tank leaked into the chassis wiring harness which took 3 weeks to repair. In the 20k miles out of warranty the following has failed: an electric window actuator, coolant temperature sensor, the parts that control the variable valve timing. I had all of these fixed. The AM radio doesn't work. The air bag light is on for the drivers bag which could be as simple as a sensor or as worse as the whole thing. The thermometer reading on the dash is occasionally coldly pessimistic. This is a problem as it turns the heater on even if it is 95 outside. I envy those of you who are fortunate enough not to suffer this low quality but this car has as many if not more repairs in it than any other car I have owned in 35 years.
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98 Audi A4 2.8 Engine
by sdwendt
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Nov 01, 2007 (9:09 am)
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Is this engine an "interference engine"? In other words if the timeing belt breaks will the valves hit the piston?
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Re: 2000 A4 1.8T breaks down a lot [fkuciapa]
by gertrudeaudi
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Nov 27, 2007 (2:10 am)
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Replying to: fkuciapa (Jan 14, 2007 1:41 pm)
I would also love to share my frustration with my Audi S4 that I bought several years ago, and recently gave up on. That worthless piece of crap was in the shop every other month, seemed like. Countless engine problems, broken tie rod, ESP problems tire wear problems, audio (speaker) problems, Oil light, Engine light, etc. etc. Who knows if the airbags would have worked? Audi is so poor in reliability that they are a waste of money. During the 50,0000 mile warranty, Audi took care of everything: that must have cost them upwards of $25,000 to fix all the problems, who knows. After the 50,000 mile warranty was over, it was my turn to pay. I dumped the car after the first $5,000 in repairs, and I consider myself lucky to have escaped. You have to be an idiot to buy an Audi, from a reliability standpoint.
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Audi is incredibly poor in reliability
by gertrudeaudi
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Nov 27, 2007 (2:15 am)
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I would love to share my frustration with my Audi S4 that I bought several years ago, and recently gave up on. That worthless piece of crap was in the shop every other month, seemed like. Countless engine problems, broken tie rod, ESP problems tire wear problems, audio (speaker) problems, Oil light, Engine light, air conditioner would not work because temperature sensor went haywire, etc. etc. Who knows if the airbags would have worked? Audi is so poor in reliability that they are a waste of money. During the 50,0000 mile warranty, Audi took care of everything: that must have cost them upwards of $25,000 to fix all the problems, who knows. After the 50,000 mile warranty was over, it was my turn to pay. I dumped the car after the first $5,000 in repairs, and I consider myself lucky to have escaped. You have to be an idiot to buy an Audi, from a reliability standpoint. "German engineering" I've arrived? Yeah, at the repair shop. Never follow? Yeah, except the tow truck taking your car to the repair shop. You have been warned.
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Audi Reliability
by bill237
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Nov 29, 2007 (3:13 pm)
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Audi and Volkswagen in general are great driving cars but have horrible reliability. I have a 2000 Audi A4 Quattro Automatic that has 68,000 mile on it.
During the first 3 years, I only had the following issues: bad keychain remote, noisy climate control, bad antenna connection. Once the warranty ran out, all kinds of things started to go: driver's side airbag ($850), driver's side window ($500), engine seals, drivetrain seals, transmission seals, differential seals ($1500), then the throttle body, o2 sensor ($400), more seals ($900), Instrument Cluster ($900), rear control arms ($500), all 4 fuel injectors ($1000), etc.
I fortunately had an extended warranty, which has alread paid more than $9000 in repairs. This car is not a lemon, it just shows the terrible parts durability in volkswagen and audi cars.
In contrast, our 6 year old subaru legacy has never had a single repair. Stay away from audi unless you lease it.
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Audi A4 AWD 100K
by skreen
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Nov 29, 2007 (7:06 am)
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I am looking to purchase a car for my daughter, turning 16, and I have found an attractive 2000 Audi A4 AWD with 100K, for $7000. What is the reliability of these cars. Are the safe?
Do they break down alot, and are they expensive to fix?
Please help!
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Re: Audi A4 AWD 100K [skreen]
by shipo
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Nov 29, 2007 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: skreen (Nov 29, 2007 7:06 am)
Which engine, the 1.8T or the 2.8?
FWIW, if it has the 1.8T and unless it was meticulously maintained with frequent oil changes of synthetic oil meeting at least the VW 502.00 oil spec, that little beastie is probably a bit sludged. The 2.8 seems to be far less susceptible to sludging, even when it hasn't been cared for as well as it should have been.
Best Regards,
Shipo
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