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Automotive News & Views 0-60 is so yesterday!
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Replying to: robertsmx (Jan 30, 2007 8:16 am) An unfair comparison between the Honda V6 and Audi 2.0T in 0-60 and 5-60 is what you provided. How about you provide the automatic Accord's numbers vs. the Automatic DSG Audi? That's a better comparison, because the Honda will be slower, and the Audi will be quicker than their respective 6M times. No one in the world own's a 2003-2006 6MT Accord anyway, how many did they really sell, most Accord V6's are equipped with the slow to downshift (but still awesomely smooth) 5 speed auto.
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Replying to: wale_bate1 (Jan 27, 2007 1:29 pm) I believe that 0-60mph is definetly important but I believe that things like passing power are just as important. Like 50-80mph, 60-90mph and such, but I think that caranddriver should include the times when they floor it (automatic), or when they downshift it to the optimal gear (stick). That is where Mazda is a great vehicle because they think of the total package, rather than just 0-60. Like for example in the twisties the Mazda 3 s will out handle the Corvette!!! It won't out accelerate it, but mph for mph it stick better to the road and is more balanced. That is very important info to people that want a sporty handling 4door.
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Replying to: cobraboy1 (Jan 30, 2007 1:49 pm) Let me know if you to post it in the CX-9 thread instead. Seems to me a lot of the examples in here point up just how little we really glean from 0-60. I definitely think of all qualifications any car may have, straight line acceleration is a highly over-rated focus...
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Replying to: andres3 (Jan 30, 2007 1:26 pm) Screw automatic drivers.  If a sport coupe or sport sedan comes with a stick, that's what any warm blooded enthusiast should buy. And that's what should be road tested.  It's particularly lame when C&D, R&T or Motor Trend does a comparison between cars like a Lexus GS430 and BMW 550i and then saddles the BMW with a slushbox to "make it fair", since the Lexus doesn't come with a manual. Fair to who? The lazy non-enthusiast slushbox driver that doesn't probably even read the darn magazine anyway? Sorry, I'm in a bad mood this afternoon. But if you read between my poor temperment above, I think the message is still valid. P.S. Audi's DSG is not really a "slushbox" automatic with a torque converter. It may not be my preferred three pedal manual, but it deserves respect. If that's what most enthusiast Audi buyers go for, then perhaps it should also be tested. But not against a Honda slushbox. I own a 2004 TL 6-speed and am pretty sure that there are at least as many Accords sold with 6-speeds. And a self proclaimed "driving enthusiast" that goes for a slushbox better get their Prozac prescription refilled.
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Replying to: wale_bate1 (Jan 30, 2007 2:11 pm) |
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Replying to: habitat1 (Jan 30, 2007 2:11 pm) |
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Replying to: andres3 (Jan 30, 2007 1:26 pm) BTW, if you still care, C&D's 0-60 number for Accord EXV6 sedan with 5AT is 6.6s (posted in a 2006 comparison of midsize sedans). |
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Replying to: wale_bate1 (Jan 30, 2007 2:11 pm) Well, I used to live and breath 0-60 back when I was (much) younger; but I'm beginning to think that IF some sort of standing start metric is desireable for benchmarking (benchracing) that a 5-60 test makes more sense. Simply from the standpoint that the results are probably more repeatable (since they aren't as dependent on clutch engagement practice, brake torquing practice, tire hookup, etc. etc.). "I definitely think of all qualifications any car may have, straight line acceleration is a highly over-rated focus..." Yep. But it provides such good fodder for internet debate....  BTW - I'm fairly sure that Bluetooth is AT LEAST available on the CX-9 (and may be standard on certain trims). Did you guys look at the MDX or did she just write off Acura out of hand? Too bad Lexus stopped making the wagon version of the IS...... |
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Replying to: rorr (Jan 30, 2007 2:32 pm) She wouldn't even set foot on the Acura lot. Go figger. I don't care for the whole class in the first place, but the MDX certainly gets good press. I don't think it's much to look at though, just personally (highly subjective of course). The Mazda floats my boat much more before I even sit in it. The less said about Lexus and their soft-padded, porcine ways, the better, good brother Roach... 
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Replying to: wale_bate1 (Jan 30, 2007 2:54 pm)
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