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Replying to: dairyshick (Oct 21, 2007 6:58 am) That is because Mazda is it's own company. They are not just another Ford vehicle. They just have a 33.4% stake in the company. We don't say Toyota owns Subaru do we? Yes, Toyota owns a small piece of Subaru, 9% I think, and here in the states, they build vehicles in the same plant.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 22, 2007 10:36 am) Furthermore, Ford even lists Mazda as a parent company on its main page, whereas Subaru is non-existent on Toyota's website...this fact alone obviously doesn't prove the differences between Ford/Mazda and Toyota/Subaru, but helps to show that Ford does have a slight hand in the decision-making of Mazda..i.e Escape/Tribute; Mazda3/S40; CX-9/Edge...the same can't be said for any Toyota/Subaru vehicles. ...despite Ford's involvement, my point is that Mazdas are very nice cars mostly because they are distinctively different from any other Ford vehicles (99% of the time). |
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Replying to: dairyshick (Oct 21, 2007 6:58 am) Your point was that Ford designs cars for Mazda. Although Ford has a controlling 33.4% stake in Mazda, Mazda designs its own cars. Mazda has design studios in Japan, California, and Germany. Your statement makes it seem like Mazdas are designed by engineers in Dearborn, Michigan. Renault of France has a controlling interest in Nissan, however, I am yet to hear that Nissans and Infinitis are designed by Renault, nor where past Chryslers designed by Mercedes. Ford's stake in Mazda gives it veto power in board room decisions not in the design direction of Mazda vehicles. I seriously doubt that Ford hates itself so bad that they will design better products for Mazda than for itself. The credit to Mazda's design goes to Mazda and not Ford.
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Replying to: unixxus (Oct 23, 2007 4:38 am) Just because there is technology sharing does not mean Ford does everything. The Mazda3 is on a Volvo platform, the Fusion is on a Mazda platform, as is the Edge and CX-9 (modified Mazda platform) Ford and Mazda use Volvo's AWD system (made by Haldex). Mazda's chief designer is Laurens Van den Acker. Ford's is J Mays. |
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| Having driven the cx-7 and 9 within the last week and the RDX today, I would like to comment on the tech side. Having heavily modified my vehicles aftermarket for some time (usually Alpine/McIntosh/JL audio/MB Quart) one of my highest consideration factors is the tech end, as I think OEM has finally reached a point where I can buy a vehicle and be happy with not modifying it. My impressions of the RDX are as follows: There were so many buttons and levers etc. on the steering wheel I had to keep myself from laughing initially, after about an hour in the vehicle I started to get a feel for them and decided that the voice integration was better than what I experienced in the CX-9. (the 7 I tested did not have the tech upgrade, hence the 9 experience)Sound quality was very close, however I am inclined to give the nod to the Bose system in the CX. The RDX definitely gets the lead for system/vehicle information available over the RX,the RX-7 was unable to provide basic current MPG usage (I like to watch that a lot of the time). THe RDX was VERY detailed with the info that could be displayed, from power disbursementto all four tires or tire psi to just about anything you wanted to see about the vehicle systems. The RDX did not have an available integrated rear entertainment system unlike the CX, which means I would have to purchase that aftermarket, so kudos to the RX in that area. All in all, I think the RDX is more technologically advanced than the CX-7 (or 9), and I still need to conduct a few more test drives to be sure, however I think I'm leaning about 2-5% off the center to the RDX. Toghest decision on a vehicle purchase I've faced, to be sure. | |
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Test drove both the RDX (MSRP $33,500) and CX-7 ($24,000) recently. Both base cars. No bells and whistles. My sister-in-law purchased the RDX and I purchased the CX-7. Here's my thought; sincerely on neutral ground. Ride quality Firm, but the CX-7 feels more roomier and suspension is tight like a sports car. The RDX is not as good on handling but ok. A bit soft in my opinion. Acceleration CX-7 is lagging from 0-to ?? but from 15-to?? feels fast once you reach over 2500 rpm. RDX is smoother when accelerating from a stop. No lag. But clumsy on handling during acceleration. Handling RDX handles like and Accord not too sporty but ok. A bit wobbly. CX-7 handles like a BMW 3 series. Is like driving with Bilstein shocks. Excellent on handling especially on mountain roads. RDX is a cruiser and the CX-7 is a windy road warrior. Seating Seating is more up-right in RDX as in most SUV's. Inside CX-7 cushion is sporty and bucket seats wrap around you. The rear seat cushion in CX-7 is low. RDX rear seats has a little more space. My personal opinion CX-7 has a cool design compared to RDX RDX has better quality material used in the car than CX-7 Gas mpg is comparable 18 mpg/22mpg (city/hwy) HP is similar 244hp on CX-7 and 240 on RDX with comparable torque 255lb/ft on CX-7 and 260lb/ft on RDX Aftermarket parts CX-7 has CAI for $270 and will increase hp by 9-10hp and not to mention you will here the turbo once you install it. Not sure about RDX. Both require 91 octane. But 2008 CX-7 did a reflash on the ECU to just "Recommend" 91 octane instead of "required". Check with dealer on this (not sure yet). Personally, spend extra $0.20/gal, enjoy the turbo and make it last using 91. BOTTOM LINE...I got my 2007 CX-7-sport for $19,995 + tax & lic. and my sister-in-law paid $31,800 (no/navi) + tax & lic. That's almost $12k difference. Why not buy another car with that kind of money! You can definitely get a decent car like an 02 Altima or 05 Civic, etc. I got a used 97 Lexus ES300 for $6,500.
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Replying to: 200hpnup (Oct 25, 2007 3:47 pm) How the heck did you manage that? Is it AWD? It has an MSRP of $26,045. Invoice is $24,406. There is $2000 of incentives, that brings you to $22,406. The CX-7's are selling like hot cakes, how did you manage $2,500 UNDER invoice??? I have been sold out of 2007's for about 2 months, and my 2008's are going fast.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 27, 2007 11:19 am) I have been sold out of 2007's for about 2 months, and my 2008's are going fast." Not as unusual as you think. I noticed an ad in the Washington Post yesterday, advertising new 2007 "up to $5000 off". I don't know what model, but I'm assuming they're the base model. Vince |
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Replying to: unixxus (Oct 23, 2007 4:38 am) To re-iterate what has been lost in this babble: The CX-7 is a nice car and is distinct from other Ford-related vehicles.
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Replying to: dairyshick (Oct 29, 2007 7:05 am) Yes, the Tribute and B-Series pick-up. The B-Series is almost extinct. Also, how much influence does a "platform" really have on a vehicle. Look at the Edge and CX-9. Totally different. There is no comparison. The CX-7 is a nice car and is distinct from other Ford-related vehicles. I ask you, how is the CX-7 related to other Ford vehicles? The CX-7 shares nothing with any Ford vehicle.
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