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Re: Mickey Mouse sunroof "screen" ideas [surveyorguy]
by p100
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Dec 21, 2006 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: surveyorguy (Nov 22, 2006 12:08 pm)
I have to agree that a lack of a good sunroof sunshade would be really annoying. Especially when you live in a hot summer state like Florida or Arizona.
I had numerous vehicles with factory installed sunroof over the years, but all of them either had a solid metal sliding sunroof panel with headliner trim underneath, or a glass panel with a solid sliding sunshade. One exception was my 95 Nissan SE V6 pickup which had a factory installed flip up manual glass sunroof. It had a mesh screen moulded into the bottom of the panel, but there was also a solid sunshade, which attached to the glass panel and could be manually removed.
GM should have provided at least such a sunshade panel. This panel requires that some fasteners be attached to the glass panel bottom for attachment. In case of my Nissan there were two slotted fasteners in the front, and two locking type fasteners in the back.
I have an '06 Silverado Z71 crew cab, but it does not have a sunroof. Now I am glad it does not.
My suggestion would be to buy a factory sunscreen for the '95 Nissan SE pickup from a Nissan dealer, and then adapt it with some fastening system to use on your sunroof. It cannot be that expensive. Unfortunately, I do not know if it would fit properly without trimming.
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- #11 of 126
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Re: 07 Silverado sunroof "screen" ideas anyone? [surveyorguy]
by jhansen27
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Mar 28, 2007 (12:31 am)
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Replying to: surveyorguy (Nov 10, 2006 10:34 pm)
To those who have posted previously, please do not take this as a direct attack, and please try to understand my overall message. The notion that GM should be responsible for alteration of the Silverado's sunroof shade material is simply ludicrous. First of all, the purpose of a re-call is to correct vehicle MALFUNCTIONS, or safety items. Obviously, this is not a safety item (if you're concerned about a sunburn on your head, buy a hat!). If the amount of ambient sunlight that passes through the shade is in excess of your desired limit, I see no malfunction other than your failure to adequately inspect the vehicle prior to purchase. On a side note, re-calls cost manufacturers millions of dollars, thus driving the cost of vehicles higher, and in turn costing all owners their hard earned dollars in the long run. So, that being said, no, I will not pay for your new sunroof shade, nor should any other proud American car buyer. Fix it yourself, or sell your vehicle. I purchased the LT2 model recently, with the sunroof option. Nobody held a gun to my head or forced me to purchase the vehicle. In turn, I am quite pleased with my purchase.
This is just a sad example of our peoples "its someone else's responsibility" attitude. People PLEASE take responsibilities for your own actions, as it will make this country a better place to live, and maybe someday re-claim the "balls" we once had. 
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Re: 07 Silverado sunroof "screen" ideas anyone? [jhansen27]
by erich1965
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Mar 28, 2007 (3:34 am)
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Replying to: jhansen27 (Mar 28, 2007 12:31 am)
I agree....yes, the mesh is a poor design, and obviously GM agreed since the new 07's have an opaque sliding panel. But if GM were to accomodate EVERY little design quirk or personal dislike, where would they be? That is why dealers have showfloors and allow test drives, so the consumer can look at them and try them before spending their $43K. Because you overlooked this is NOT GM's fault. I would simply take it to your local Ziebart and spend $100 on the darkest tint available which will make it almost opaque, especially in combination with the mesh screen.
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Re: 07 Silverado sunroof "screen" ideas anyone? [jhansen27]
by paisan
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Mar 28, 2007 (3:34 am)
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Replying to: jhansen27 (Mar 28, 2007 12:31 am)
There's no pullshade on the Moonroof? That's the oddest thing I've ever heard of! Every car I've owned for the past 15 years that had a moonroof had a pullshade on it! I don't think the manufacturer is responsible for fixing it, however I would not get the moonroof if that's the case.
-mike
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Re: 07 Silverado sunroof "screen" ideas anyone? [paisan]
by obyone
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Mar 28, 2007 (1:04 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Mar 28, 2007 3:34 am)
Acuras and Honda has moonroof as a standard option and has the "experience" in this area. However, ever noticed over the years how many GM vehicles have had a moonroof? Obviously GM doesn't have the experience nor expertise in this area. Perhaps the will include the shade in future moonroofs, learning from their mistakes.
Ever seen a Cavalier with a moonroof ....ROTFLMFAO!!
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Re: 07 Silverado sunroof "screen" ideas anyone? [obyone]
by paisan
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Mar 28, 2007 (1:10 pm)
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Replying to: obyone (Mar 28, 2007 1:04 pm)
I'm going to have to disagree with you. I believe GM is pretty experienced as almost all Caddys and Oldsmobiles in the 70s and 80s had em and they had a shade!
-mike
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Re: 07 Silverado sunroof "screen" ideas anyone? [paisan]
by obyone
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Mar 28, 2007 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Mar 28, 2007 1:10 pm)
That could be true. I owned a '76 Cutlass Supreme with no moonroof though I remember some with landau roofs did have that option. Course being 20-30 years ago can't remember offhand if they had the shade.
Could it be that it was so long ago that GM forgot about it? Nah, more I think about it the bean counters figured not including the shade will save several million more so since the moonroof isn't included on most trucks.
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Re: 07 Silverado sunroof "screen" ideas anyone? [jhansen27]
by surveyorguy
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Mar 28, 2007 (5:56 pm)
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Replying to: jhansen27 (Mar 28, 2007 12:31 am)
I’m sorry but the sun screen issue isn’t about balls or malfunctions or taking personal reasonability for this issue, it’s about a poor design and trying to get GM to own up to it and correct it. Yes, you’re correct I “could” wear a hat all the time in the truck if I wanted to block out the sun. And yes, it’s my fault for not more thoroughly checking out the sun roof feature before signing on the dotted line. My excuse for that is that it was an overcast day out (rare here in central Oregon) and it was late in the afternoon, so during the “test drive” the sun wasn’t really an issue as it wasn’t shining through the clouds. I suppose you would say I should have come back on a sunny day then to test it out. The only reason I even got this stupid sun roof option to begin with is because it is the only way I could get the “home-link” package. Interesting that GM conveniently packages stuff that you don’t real want with stuff that you do want, they’re not stupid, just lousy designers. I still think GM should have come up with a solution for the problem. And before you say well suck it up and take care of it yourself, I actually did just that this week for a quick $100. But I didn’t tint the glass as was suggested by one posting, because then I would never be able to see through it should I actually want to.
I’m just curious if you bought a can of tuna fish, a TV you name it, and you got it home and it was obvious that it was spoiled or just didn’t work correctly, what would you do? Would you just say “Oh shucks the darn thing just don’t work right I guess I’ll just live with it.” I think not! I think you would do just as I’ve tried to do and that is to get the problem corrected. Maybe a “recall” isn’t the correct terminology, but what ever I think GM should be responsible and have the “balls” to make sure the “sun” screen is actually shading the driver’s eyes from the sun before someone has an accident as a result of it. And if GM wanted to do a recall to replace all of these worthless sun screens, so be it. If they wanted to just replace the screen for those “whiners” like myself that is their prerogative too. Maybe I should have bought a convertible instead of a pickup then I could have all of the sun I wanted.
Other than the sun screen issue I still love my Chevy diesel.
surveyorguy
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Re: 07 Silverado sunroof "screen" ideas anyone? [surveyorguy]
by paisan
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Mar 28, 2007 (6:09 pm)
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Replying to: surveyorguy (Mar 28, 2007 5:56 pm)
You bought a 30-40k truck and didn't check out the features?
That would be like buying a house on a lake at night and not realizing there was no dock!!!!
Guy, I'm sorry but you are plain old wrong, you should have checked it out before signing for it and if you didn't like it could have bought a Ford or Dodge or Nissan or Toyota!
-mike
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Re: 07 Silverado sunroof "screen" ideas anyone? [paisan]
by surveyorguy
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Mar 28, 2007 (7:41 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Mar 28, 2007 6:09 pm)
So based upon that scenario I guess I should have turned on every light, every knob or button on the radio, every possible lever that does anything, rather than have some expectation that it would work without me physically checking everyone of them! I think the normal person would "assume" (I know that makes an ass out of you and me) that since there is a glass panel (sunroof) in the roof of the truck and that there is "normally" (at least in my experience, I have never seen a sunroof installation except possibly some after market installations which doesn't include some sort of method to close it off totally) some expectation that if there is a cover for the sunroof, that it does in fact close it off, not just slightly close it. I don't know if you have one of these sunroof screens on your sunroof, but I would suggest you stop by a Chevy dealer and sit in one on a bright day and see how ineffective they are! For all I know maybe you’re just a GM "plant" and you're just trying to defend their poor sunroof screen (actually more like a mesh screen) design.
As for the options of vehicles, sure that was a possibility, but I liked the Chevy best. And you very right, in hindsight I should have checked it out before signing for it. Or at least made it part of the signing agreement that it was corrected. But I still think GM should do something to correct the problem. Someone said the newer version (07 1/2) doesn't have this mesh screen anymore, so obviously GM figured out it was ineffective and changed it.
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