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Replying to: obyone (Mar 28, 2007 10:00 pm) "GM Plant" haaa hardly, I'm not a big fan of American car makers mostly because I usually get burnt in terms of reliability on them. As for you not buying a Ford, Dodge, Nissan, or Toyota pickup because you "liked" the GM one, then you have to take the bad with the good! -mike |
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Replying to: surveyorguy (Mar 28, 2007 7:41 pm) As for my own experience, I life in southeast Texas, and certainly see quite a bit of sun. The shade, in my opinion, is more than adequate. Later models (such as mine) still have the semi-translucent shade. The 4-door cab model has the full cover which blocks all light. I think this has something to do with the amount of available space in the headliner between the extended and 4-dr cab models. Anyway, Im glad to see that people agree you should pay attention to what you buy, before you buy it. And no, Im not a GM employee either. I am in the military, protecting your freedom to complain about your "crappy" sunroof shade.
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Replying to: jhansen27 (Mar 29, 2007 6:59 am) Side note, I work 3 blocks from Ground Zero, so I'd like to personally thank you for your efforts in protecting my Freedom! -mike |
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Some where the point seems to have been missed in this whole discussion. 1) The sunroof/moon roof/whatever you want to call it (the glass) works fine and isn’t a problem. It goes up and back and doesn’t leak and functions just like it’s supposed to. 2) The sunshade/sunscreen is made of an open weave mesh material that is on a small roller much like the old window shades. It pulls out and retracts just like it was designed to do. But it does not and I repeat does not block much of the sun coming in the sunroof. I wished I had a light meter to compare the actual difference between the sunscreen open and the sunscreen closed. 3) I’m not sure exactly how long GM has been using this particular type of “mesh sunscreen”, but I understand it may have been since the 2006 model and possibly ended with the 2007½ model. I also understand that possibly it’s only in the crewcab models since there is more headliner area and they can also install DVD players behind it. I have not heard of any other manufacturers using this particular type of pull shade (there might be but I just haven’t heard of any). I think everyone should or does have the expectation that when they buy something be it a toaster or a pickup truck that everything will or should work as designed. Therein lies the problem, the design of the “mesh” sunscreen, it doesn’t function as a normal one would expect. It only partially deflects the sun! If this was such a good idea why wouldn’t car manufacturers have used this sort of sunscreen for the last twenty years or more with their other sunroofs? I can tell you because it ineffective as a sunscreen it doesn’t block out the sun from coming through the sunroof! It probably saved GM $5 (or less) per vehicles by not having used an opaque material, which by the way would have totally solved this issue. Of all the other vehicles with sunroofs I owned or sat in, they all had a “solid” or opaque material to close off the sunroof area, EXCEPT for my 2007 Chevy crewcab. So why change to the mesh sunscreen now. Like the old adage says “If it ain’t broke don’t fix it”. I too would like to thank jhansen27 for protecting our right to complain about “crappy” sunroof shades. I salute you and hope you stay safe and out of harms way. Luckily for me I was too tall to be in the military during the Vietnam conflict. Maybe that’s why I’m complaining about Chevrolet’s “crappy” sun shade, because my head is so close to the roof. Oh and my $100 solution is pretty basic and not totally functional if you wanted to use the sunroof frequently. I had a piece of hard board upholstered with material to match the headliner color and then it is sort of sprung into place between the glass and the screen. It works, but surely isn’t perfect by any means. Maybe if I live long enough to need to buy another pickup truck GM will have figured out how to make a better sunscreen by then too! Sorry to have ruffled everyone’s feathers over this issue but seemed like there must have been a simple solution short of just “sucking it up and living with it”. That has been GM’s answer so far obviously.
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Replying to: surveyorguy (Mar 29, 2007 9:32 am) -mike |
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| on the Denali's you could have a moonroof only if you didn't order the DVD package. If you ordered the DVD you would've had to get aftermarket. | |
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Replying to: surveyorguy (Mar 29, 2007 9:32 am) Interesting point on the screen issue... After some research, it would appear that the sunshade, is in fact not a shade at all. Seems GM intended it to be a screen, functioning much like the screens in out houses. So, wanting to test my newest hypothesis, I opened my sunroof in the light rain, and was quite pleased to find that I didn't feel a drop. Now, I wouldn't suggest the same in a downpour, but you get the idea. It filters out debris and moisture, yet allows normal airflow, and as we ALL know, plenty of light. I am going to verify this with some GM folks I know, but I think Im on to their method behind their madness. And yes, even I plan to tint the sunroof darker, along with the rest of my windows! Thanks for a good debate. JH
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Replying to: jhansen27 (Mar 30, 2007 12:47 am) Speaking of NY Harbor, I'm looking out at it right now. Statue of Liberty on my right and the Brooklyn bridge on my left! Thanks again! -mike |
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| Duct tape works very well and it is cheap. Never had a complaint with it. | |
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| So, let me make sure I understand...the new '07 body style extended cab Silverado DOES have a shade that blocks the sun and the old body style have the "screen" that doesn't block the sun? Just wanting to make sure since I'm wanting to order a truck with the Sunroof, but will pass on it if I can't close it off to the sun when necessary. | |
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