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159 messages, Last post on Nov 14, 2009 at 12:41 PM
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Second oil change. Valvoline dino out. Valvoline syn in (should I dope it with some group V only I know). Noticed tire feathering front to back. No authorized local dealer has a service writer or service person driving a wrangler. One dealership accused me of not rotating my huge mudders (stock rubi's) every 3k miles and I should expect that kind of wear. Warranty smarranty. Back to Screamin Lizard - immediate answer - alignment. Caster out, toe out - but the funny part is that there was no shimmy no pulling nothing not even when close to the rev limiter while taking a long banked interstate curve. Complete confidence. However, the cross camber, cross caster, and cross toe were all within specs. Ordered an aftermarket steering stabilizer and bracket from the 'Lizard as preventative maintenance. Almost got tboned on passenger side thankfully no passenger. Made it through the intersection before their brakes stopped them in the middle as seen in my rearview. Moving up the frame mounted step idea, leaving rubi rail on, to increase the side protection (airbags can only do so much). Was asking the 'Lizard to custom make some but investigating a frame mounted step now. Yes, I spent way too much time reading about the ins and outs of body/frame/combo rails. Want frame mounted and the body mount locations look good for now but want something soon. While better_half likes her H3 it really runs great now redline everywhere and smoother tires, the wrangler truly is an enjoyable sport car 4x4 and she wants to pry the key out of my hand every chance she can take. Rockhard cannister cover-didn't relocate. Mirror drain holes after second hand washing. Redline in dif's. Steering stabilizer coming. Steps coming. Should've been in Bridgeport yesterday-Oh well October then. |
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Replying to: brokenjeep (May 28, 2009 10:32 am) first i thought it had something to do with my ABS brakes and the recalls they had for the computer software the first time Chrysler told me it was the tires with out even looking at it the second time they couldn't duplicate the problem I am now going on 6 times I fear bridges and tunnels because if it happens there I am certainly getting rear ended any suggestions on what to do after reading this forum it seems there is no solution
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Replying to: olivejeep (Sep 26, 2007 8:16 am) |
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Replying to: curreriedward (Sep 22, 2009 11:55 am) Wranglers up the '06 sometimes have this problem too, and in those cases it's almost always a combination of worn steering joints and a suspension lift. However, from '07 onward it seems to have become a design issue occurring on even brand new vehicles. What makes it harder for the customer is that it doesn't occur on all vehicles, and even on those that suffer it doesn't occur consistently. AFAIK there's no official fix, but some people have had dealers fit aftermarket steering stabilizers under warranty, which is the route I'd follow if it were mine. Try to get a pair of the beefiest stabilizers installed that you can find, even if you have to pay for it yourself. It will mask rather than fix I'm afraid, but until Jeep publicly recognize the problem and design a fix it's the best I can offer. Personally, I think that Jeep will ignore it, just as they have with the leaking hardtop issue. |
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Replying to: curreriedward (Sep 22, 2009 11:55 am) To all who have this.... Chrysler IS AWARE of the Death Wobble.... their engineers know all about it and have NO IDEA what the issue is. The 2010 parts for the steering stabilizer seem to resolve the issue which was their hope. My jeep is the first with these parts to resolve the issue ... and so far so good. Forget going through customer service... waste of time and the speak little English... Call corporate office if necessary. |
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Crawled under a 2010 wrangler and saw the beefier stabilizer. Saw the redesigned bracket. Been told the stabilizer problem was at the other end as well as a beefier stabilizer. Before the looksee under the 2010 had the 'Lizard mount a terra flex shock with the relocation bracket ( a little bolt work). Rubi is first sfa and read before buying it and keep reading asking learning. Epilogue is the prologue. Continue reading only if bored. Bought a new jack w/jackstands for a van. Believe a petersens kit from pepboys years ago. Got a one year subscription to their mag. Got emails for dirt cheap mags (not full versions as in stores) but have been paid for with the 20% harbor freight coupons inside. Swimming with coupons. Three mags came yesterday. Petersen's 4Wheel & Off-Road December issue has a good Ford "DEATH WOBBLE" story in the Technical column by Rick Péwé. Seems to support a lot of what I have read and been told about sfa. As an aside the Motor Trend article liked the new 2010 4Runner. Test drove a 2009 before the Rubicon purchase. The Toyota did everything it was supposed to do but didn't like the mushy brake pedal, reminded me of those Ford vans (cure supposedly was to replace the master cylinder with a stronger truck model. Guess it was to keep from throwing passengers with a quick stop). 2009 Toyota seemed homogenized and tall and narrow. No regrets about the rubi and looking forward to custom frame mounted sliders/steps from the 'lizard. |
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Replying to: dldjeep01 (Oct 30, 2007 5:48 pm) I noticed your post was in 2007. Can you tell me what ever happened with your situation? I have been reading tons of posts about this flaw and it doesn't look very promising as far as finding a quick fix....or any fix at all. Any suggestions you may have would be really helpful. |
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Replying to: kfudem (Oct 05, 2009 11:41 am) My complaint was entered as: Customer states steering shakes excessively when hitting bumps The dealership replaced The Damper, steering Customer states loud clunk in rear end when shifting into drive after backing up Cause: Spider gears teeth broken and clutch noisy The dealership replaced the rear differential pumpkin assembly and bearing S. replaced fluids and added additives Parts included: Seal-Drive Pinion Bearing -Drive Pinion Bearing-Differential side Spacer-Drive Pinion Bearing Case Kit-Differential Bearing-Drive Pinion Sealer Lubricant Lubricant Adhessive-Stud and Bearing Trac-lock equipped Rear Disc BrakesEquipped-both sides Bearings, Pinion-All Axles-Replaced It took them 12 days and now it's making a clanging sound when I ecellerate???????????? I am so frustrated Ihad a 2001 Jeep Wrangler and had no major problems I have had to replace the front brakes within 10 months and believe all these other issues were what caused my brakes to wear so fast, but had to pay another $300 again within a year on front brakes and $359. for the back. The Dealership I brought the Jeep to was in Kingwood, Texas and because I bought an extended Warrenty I got a free rental that I drove off the lot with then every morning tire was low so i put air in then brought it back to them to fix and I had to buy a $100. tire because there was a nail in the side (which was miost likely there when I rented) they also charged me $20. labor to put a new tire on their PT cruiser even though if I had been in my realitivly new Jeep it would have been covered cuz I purchased the road hazard warrenty they PUSH on you when buying tires even though apparently they don't find it nessasary on their own vehicles     DEERBROOK FOREST JEEP
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Replying to: kellykay474 (Oct 05, 2009 12:47 pm) |
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Replying to: kellykay474 (Oct 05, 2009 12:47 pm) Why would they go to the expense of buying it for their own vehicles when they can get the customer to pay for any tire damage? As the economy gets tougher some businesses will reduce spending on items that they believe will reduce their profits. Other businesses will increase spending on the same items, believing that an increase in happy customers will add to their profits. I believe your dealer falls into the first group. 
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