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#138 of 229 Re: No value line brake pads? [kellykay474]
Jun 03, 2009 (9:05 am)
My 2006 Jeep Wrangler X had to have the Rotors replaced about 1 wk after I drove it off the lot. They said it may be part of a bad "batch". After 2 years I had to have them replaced again. Not under warranty the second time...so they say. I have owned all types of vehicles and NEVER had to replace Rotors this often. It is definitely a problem at the factory and not due to normal wear and tear. Never abused it or even had it off road YET. I only have 21,000 mi. on it now and I figured that if they go bad with normal driving I would have to replace them every week if I took it off-road.
#139 of 229 Re: No value line brake pads? [skyking49]
Jun 10, 2009 (7:36 am)
Ditch factory pads/rotors.
EBC Yellowstuff brakepads will be all the pad your TJ will need unless you really build up your Jeep.
#140 of 229 Re: No value line brake pads? [kellykay474]
Jun 10, 2009 (1:30 pm)
Welcome to the club..check out my posts about my rotors on my 2006. The rotors were bad the day I drove it off the lot...not sure why they didn't notice it. Two weeks later they replaced them. About a year or so later they went "bad" again but I had to pay this time because the warranty had expired for the "new" rotors I had installed.
For a vehicle that is meant to be driven "rough" it is a joke to have them go bad so often.
#141 of 229 Re: No value line brake pads? [skyking49]
Jun 11, 2009 (4:57 am)
Again, why I went aftermarket on mine.
If you run larger tires with a lift, the TJ brakes quickly become inadequate. Vanco makes a brake upgrade kit that uses dual piston calipers vs the single caliper on the TJ's. Better rotors and grippier pads, combined with that brake upgrade make for an incredible setup.
Also note, if you ride your brakes a lot or tap them any time you need to slow down, you increase your chances of warping. I saw that a LOT on the California highway/parking lots. Yet I managed to get over 66,000 miles from stock Jeep brakes on my Grand Cherokee (WJ) when they were known to warp even easier than the TJ's will.
Sure the brakes could be better, but driving habits will dictate SOME of it (though it doesn't really apply if they warp w/in 2 weeks of vehicle delivery).
#142 of 229 Re: front end shakes violently ... at high speeds [dldjeep01]
Aug 24, 2009 (8:17 pm)
This has happened to me 3 times...what a horrible feeling. I am taking it in tomorrow...did yours get fixed?
Sep 20, 2009 (10:26 am)
Second oil change. Valvoline dino out. Valvoline syn in (should I dope it with some group V only I know). Noticed tire feathering front to back. No authorized local dealer has a service writer or service person driving a wrangler. One dealership accused me of not rotating my huge mudders (stock rubi's) every 3k miles and I should expect that kind of wear. Warranty smarranty. Back to Screamin Lizard - immediate answer - alignment. Caster out, toe out - but the funny part is that there was no shimmy no pulling nothing not even when close to the rev limiter while taking a long banked interstate curve. Complete confidence. However, the cross camber, cross caster, and cross toe were all within specs.
Ordered an aftermarket steering stabilizer and bracket from the 'Lizard as preventative maintenance. Almost got tboned on passenger side thankfully no passenger. Made it through the intersection before their brakes stopped them in the middle as seen in my rearview. Moving up the frame mounted step idea, leaving rubi rail on, to increase the side protection (airbags can only do so much). Was asking the 'Lizard to custom make some but investigating a frame mounted step now. Yes, I spent way too much time reading about the ins and outs of body/frame/combo rails. Want frame mounted and the body mount locations look good for now but want something soon. While better_half likes her H3 it really runs great now redline everywhere and smoother tires, the wrangler truly is an enjoyable sport car 4x4 and she wants to pry the key out of my hand every chance she can take.
Rockhard cannister cover-didn't relocate. Mirror drain holes after second hand washing. Redline in dif's. Steering stabilizer coming. Steps coming. Should've been in Bridgeport yesterday-Oh well October then.
#144 of 229 Re: front end shakes violently ... at high speeds [brokenjeep]
Sep 22, 2009 (11:55 am)
I too have the death wobble now.. I have a 2007 jk X with 31,000 miles
first i thought it had something to do with my ABS brakes and the recalls they had for the computer software
the first time Chrysler told me it was the tires with out even looking at it
the second time they couldn't duplicate the problem
I am now going on 6 times
I fear bridges and tunnels because if it happens there I am certainly getting rear ended
any suggestions on what to do after reading this forum it seems there is no solution
#145 of 229 Re: Help Leaking! [olivejeep]
Sep 22, 2009 (12:12 pm)
yes I have this problem too but I am now more concerned about y at 60-70 mph I hit a small bump in the road and the front end violently shakes and the wheels feel like they are coming off
#146 of 229 Re: front end shakes violently ... at high speeds [curreriedward]
Sep 24, 2009 (6:44 am)
I too have the death wobble now..........................any suggestions on what to do after reading this forum it seems there is no solution
Wranglers up the '06 sometimes have this problem too, and in those cases it's almost always a combination of worn steering joints and a suspension lift.
However, from '07 onward it seems to have become a design issue occurring on even brand new vehicles. What makes it harder for the customer is that it doesn't occur on all vehicles, and even on those that suffer it doesn't occur consistently.
AFAIK there's no official fix, but some people have had dealers fit aftermarket steering stabilizers under warranty, which is the route I'd follow if it were mine.
Try to get a pair of the beefiest stabilizers installed that you can find, even if you have to pay for it yourself.
It will mask rather than fix I'm afraid, but until Jeep publicly recognize the problem and design a fix it's the best I can offer.
Personally, I think that Jeep will ignore it, just as they have with the leaking hardtop issue.
#147 of 229 Re: front end shakes violently ... at high speeds [curreriedward]
Sep 25, 2009 (6:44 am)
Hi, I have a 2007 Sahara.. I spent over 6 months dealing with Chrysler.. you need the 2010 stabilizer ONLY the 2010.... also I did get new tires... but seriously have them order the 2010 parts first ... so far have gone 10k and the issue seems ... to have stopped so far.
To all who have this.... Chrysler IS AWARE of the Death Wobble.... their engineers know all about it and have NO IDEA what the issue is. The 2010 parts for the steering stabilizer seem to resolve the issue which was their hope. My jeep is the first with these parts to resolve the issue ... and so far so good. Forget going through customer service... waste of time and the speak little English... Call corporate office if necessary.