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Instant Classic 2006 Jeep Wrangler
by skyking49
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May 21, 2009 (12:29 pm)
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Not a maintenance issue but was wondering about the future status of the 2006 Jeep.
It is the last "Jeep". I mean with two doors, regular length and straight 4 or 6 cylinder engine. I think the engine in the 06 and earlier is better then the current engine that is from their Van.AFAIK. By better I mean longer lasting. I was glad that I bought mine when I did. Any thoughts?
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- #133 of 141
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Re: front end shakes violently ... at high speeds [erickpl]
by dizze
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May 21, 2009 (9:53 pm)
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Replying to: erickpl (May 01, 2009 5:48 am)
Just to add fuel to the fire, I have an '03 wrangler and as soon as I lifted it at about the 2,000 mi mark I got the death wobble. I got the same story-heavier stabilizer. Now I run two and guarantee it's just a mask. I read on here where someone felt it was a class action lawsuit design flaw. I don't know if it only happens to lifted jeeps, but I would think so and if so, would not be a design issue when stock. I believe the design issue rears it's ugly head once lifted, as the Y-steering can move up and down causing a toe-in toe-out oscillation. A solid tie rod configuration can't do this. I had a Chrysler Concorde with 148K+ on it, bushings shot, bearings worn, tie rod ends worn, rotors beat and it still drove well. When I hear what appears to be guesses from dealers to people and then it's posted, I wonder how accurate the info. is? A lot of them site the same issues that the old Chrysler had and it worked fine. I think it is a design issue, but it's amplified when lifted. I have had people say that there are some alignment specs that cure it and one magazine just said to toe it out X-amount. I think changing the steering to the Rugged Ridge style setup should be THE fix. Has anyone done this that previously suffered from DW (without changing anything else)? What were your results. I wish I could afford it to prove it to myself. The new JK is setup with the different steering. Anyone had DW with those?
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- #134 of 141
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Re: front end shakes violently ... at high speeds [dizze]
by brokenjeep
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May 28, 2009 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: dizze (May 21, 2009 9:53 pm)
yes the JK 2007-2008-2009 all have the death wobble. I have been trying to see if it is certain models (X-Sahara-Rubicon) or just all of them. Chrystler claims it is the steering stabalizer that is the issue. From what I hear all the stabalizer does is mask an issue? I have an 07 Sahara Unlimited and have been dealing with this issue for 7 months.
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- #135 of 141
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Re: front end shakes violently ... at high speeds [brokenjeep]
by kellykay474
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May 28, 2009 (2:42 pm)
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Replying to: brokenjeep (May 28, 2009 11:32 am)
Yes, I have a 2007 4dr jeep wrangler saharah 4x4. It is in the shop today for the 9th day I had some stabilizer leak and teeth were missing from my pumpkin ring in my rearend??? They had to order the part from out of state(i'm in Texas) and have been in a PT cruiser rental  I drove the rental less than 20 miles and woke up the next morning and the tire was low put air in it, took it back to the dealership to have repaired, and had to buy a brand new tire for the rental at the tune of $100.00 when the nail was most likely there when I had to drive the dealer's rental. I am livid first they have my jeep for almost two weeks and they had the nerve to charge me $20.00 labor to put a brand new tire on THIER CAR!! The dealerships name is:DEERBROOK FOREST CHYRSLER JEEP In Kingwood,Texas
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- #136 of 141
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Re: front end shakes violently ... at high speeds [kellykay474]
by tidester HOST
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May 28, 2009 (4:34 pm)
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Replying to: kellykay474 (May 28, 2009 2:42 pm)
Consider writing up a report in our Dealer Ratings and Reviews.
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
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- #137 of 141
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Re: 2008 Jeep Wrangler Clutch Pops out of First Gear [flynlevel]
by johnmarkharper
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Jun 03, 2009 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: flynlevel (Jun 02, 2008 9:28 am)
I have a 2008 Wrangler rubicon unlimited and have been having the exact same experience. I have had it in the shop 5 times on this and the dealership finally told me that I would have to find another service center tand that they could no longer help me on it!
Clearly this is a defect in the product that Jeep has not figured out yet.
Good luck!
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- #138 of 141
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Re: No value line brake pads? [kellykay474]
by skyking49
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Jun 03, 2009 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: kellykay474 (May 21, 2009 8:08 am)
My 2006 Jeep Wrangler X had to have the Rotors replaced about 1 wk after I drove it off the lot. They said it may be part of a bad "batch". After 2 years I had to have them replaced again. Not under warranty the second time...so they say. I have owned all types of vehicles and NEVER had to replace Rotors this often. It is definitely a problem at the factory and not due to normal wear and tear. Never abused it or even had it off road YET. I only have 21,000 mi. on it now and I figured that if they go bad with normal driving I would have to replace them every week if I took it off-road.
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- #139 of 141
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Re: No value line brake pads? [skyking49]
by erickpl
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Jun 10, 2009 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: skyking49 (Jun 03, 2009 10:05 am)
Ditch factory pads/rotors.
EBC Yellowstuff brakepads will be all the pad your TJ will need unless you really build up your Jeep.
-Paul
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- #140 of 141
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Re: No value line brake pads? [kellykay474]
by skyking49
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Jun 10, 2009 (2:30 pm)
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Replying to: kellykay474 (May 21, 2009 8:08 am)
Welcome to the club..check out my posts about my rotors on my 2006. The rotors were bad the day I drove it off the lot...not sure why they didn't notice it. Two weeks later they replaced them. About a year or so later they went "bad" again but I had to pay this time because the warranty had expired for the "new" rotors I had installed.
For a vehicle that is meant to be driven "rough" it is a joke to have them go bad so often.
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Re: No value line brake pads? [skyking49]
by erickpl
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Jun 11, 2009 (5:57 am)
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Replying to: skyking49 (Jun 10, 2009 2:30 pm)
Again, why I went aftermarket on mine. 
If you run larger tires with a lift, the TJ brakes quickly become inadequate. Vanco makes a brake upgrade kit that uses dual piston calipers vs the single caliper on the TJ's. Better rotors and grippier pads, combined with that brake upgrade make for an incredible setup.
Also note, if you ride your brakes a lot or tap them any time you need to slow down, you increase your chances of warping. I saw that a LOT on the California highway/parking lots. Yet I managed to get over 66,000 miles from stock Jeep brakes on my Grand Cherokee (WJ) when they were known to warp even easier than the TJ's will.
Sure the brakes could be better, but driving habits will dictate SOME of it (though it doesn't really apply if they warp w/in 2 weeks of vehicle delivery).
-Paul
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