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Pontiac Grand Am Starting/Stalling Problems

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How do I replace my starter? by tgomez032886
Dec 30, 2007 (9:25 am)
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If the dash lights come on and car doesnt crank over and have enough power, would this be a starter problem? Doesnt click so I am sure its not the sullenoid. If it is the starter I need a step by step process on removing and installing. This vehicle is a 1993 Pontiac Grand Am GT 3.3 V6. Please Help ASAP.
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Re: How do I replace my starter? [tgomez032886] by burdawg
Jan 02, 2008 (10:50 pm)
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Replying to: tgomez032886 (Dec 30, 2007 9:25 am)

I'd check the battery first. Just because the dash lights work doesn't mean the battery has enough power to operate the starting system.
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Re: 2003 Grand Am Cranks won't Start [brkr12002] by brkr12002
Jan 03, 2008 (7:38 pm)
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Replying to: brkr12002 (Dec 19, 2007 5:44 pm)

So I had my fuel pump replace and drove the car one day before going out for the Christmas holidays. First night out of the dealership mechanic, the car seem to start perfectly. After being gone for ten days I came back and the car started fine. Until I went to walmart to pick up a few things. Got out the store and had problems starting again. I just spent $900 having the car towed and replacing the fuel pump. It seems as though the fuel pump is not always turning on when initially trying to start. Tonight the car stalled on me 3 times within 1 block, luckily close to home and on a side street. Now I'm going and starting the car and it starts right away all the time. Please help, I'm desperate for getting this thing fixed. Is it something electrical? Help.
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Water=Stall? by xzrnoth
Jan 05, 2008 (5:38 pm)
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Lemme start out with saying that I don't know much at all about cars. Recently its been raining heavily in Cali, and I accidentally drove through a large puddle. The water had to be as high as the undercarriage, and i stalled out, I waited a moment, and fired it up to be rewarded with a Click, and thats it, Its been about 5 hours sense i drove through the puddle and im still getting the same results, Everything electrical that i can see is working properly, when i start the car all the dash lights etc come on, Its A 02 Pontiac grandam, Any help or suggestions would be appreciated
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Re: Water=Stall? [xzrnoth] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 07, 2008 (2:18 pm)
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Replying to: xzrnoth (Jan 05, 2008 5:38 pm)

I'd say you either drowned the starter motor or you sucked up water into the engine and seized it. If this is a stickshift you can try a push-start. If it's an automatic, you'll probably have to remove the starter and bench test it, or if the starter checks out, take out a few spark plugs and look for signs of water in the cylinders. or vice-versa.
 
If you hydro-locked the engine, it's toast. All the rods are bent. Hope it's just the starter motor.
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Re: Water=Stall? [Mr_Shiftright] by xzrnoth
Jan 08, 2008 (5:08 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 07, 2008 2:18 pm)

Well me and my father think its the starter, I dont believe its hydro locked ive checked the engine oil, and its fine, usual color, no indication of water being inside, How do i bench test the starter? And how do you hydro lock it? sorry man, i Know nothing about cars, I checked the air filter, and it was Soaked through, if that helps at all.
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Re: Water=Stall? [xzrnoth] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 09, 2008 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: xzrnoth (Jan 08, 2008 5:08 pm)

You can't test the oil for hydrolocking. You'd have to remove the spark plugs and try to spin the engine. If the engine doesn't turn, well then you know.
 
I think you did hydro-lock it, sad to say, but let's hope not. See if the engine turns or not! A water-soaked air filter is a bad sign.
 
Is this a stickshift? If so, you can just put it in 2nd gear and push the car gently by hand and see if the motor rotates.
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Re: Water=Stall? [Mr_Shiftright] by xzrnoth
Jan 10, 2008 (4:10 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 09, 2008 12:13 pm)

Well we pulled the front 3 spark plugs, and cranked it and sure enough water came out, We cant get the back 3 spark plugs. From water just being in there do we know if the engine is dead?
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Re: Water=Stall? [xzrnoth] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 10, 2008 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: xzrnoth (Jan 10, 2008 4:10 am)

Well it may not be dead, that depends on how much water went in---if the water filled the cylinders, well....water does NOT compress....so the piston comes up, hits the water and bends the connecting rods.
 
You should probably remove all the plugs, spin the engine to get all the water out, and do a compression test for starters. If compression is decent, put in new plugs, drain the oil and change the oil and air filter and crank 'er up and see what happens.
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Re: Water=Stall? [Mr_Shiftright] by xzrnoth
Jan 12, 2008 (6:59 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 10, 2008 9:14 am)

Mr Shiftright, Thank you, All your information got my car back on the road, I didnt know how to do a compression test, but drained the engine of water. replaced everything you suggested, and charged the battery, and she shot back up with a wee bit of hesitation. Shes moving though. Thank you very much man.

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