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How sporty in this new Continuously Variable Transaxle II transmission?

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How sporty in this new Continuously Variable Transaxle II transmission? by yoder88
Jan 05, 2007 (8:56 pm)
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How sporty is this new continuouly variable transaxle transmission? I test drove a new compass and it's different feel. My wife can't drive a 5 speed. I need to just teach her so I can get the SRT4:)
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Re: How sporty in this new Continuously Variable Transaxle II transmission? [yoder88] by lexan1965
Jan 06, 2007 (2:25 am)
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Replying to: yoder88 (Jan 05, 2007 8:56 pm)

How sporty? I've got the CVT2 with the 2.0 on my Caliber and I love it. I don't know if I'll buy another car without a CVT again. I love the acceleration and smooth pick up of speed through the CVT2. Many times I've come off of a stop and pressed the gas pedal down and left all other cars well behind me (and I wasn't trying either).
The CVT2 will feel different in the Compass just because it's a heavier vehicle I'd imagine.
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Re: How sporty in this new Continuously Variable Transaxle II transmission? [lexan1965] by yoder88
Jan 06, 2007 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: lexan1965 (Jan 06, 2007 2:25 am)

Your comment about leaving the other cars behind is what I'm talking about when I say sporty. I love 5 speeds but my wife doesn't. With this new transmission that doesn't feel like it's shifting I'm wondering if I can take an R/T with the CVT2 and beef it up in horse power. Does that make sense?
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Re: How sporty in this new Continuously Variable Transaxle II transmission? [yoder88] by habalanche
Jan 06, 2007 (1:48 pm)
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Replying to: yoder88 (Jan 06, 2007 8:53 am)

The R/T has autostick so if you like a stick shift you sort of have it,and if you want an automatic you have that too.I use the autostick and my wife simply puts it in drve and goes.
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Re: How sporty in this new Continuously Variable Transaxle II transmission? [habalanche] by yoder88
Jan 07, 2007 (3:21 pm)
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Replying to: habalanche (Jan 06, 2007 1:48 pm)

Thanks
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I'm not sure by caliberchic
Jan 23, 2007 (6:28 pm)
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I didn't want to gamble on that transission, I opted for the 5 speed. I had heard previously it some what felt like how a snowmobile shifts. Not sure if that's true or not as I haven't riden a snowmobile nor an automatic Caliber.
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Re: I'm not sure [caliberchic] by litesong1
Jan 31, 2007 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: caliberchic (Jan 23, 2007 6:28 pm)

I've had the CVT 2liter since September 2006. CVT sportiness is none existent. Tho the Carbon fiber Graphite pulley(far stronger than steel) shifts continually, you can't feel it. Its elegantly smooth giving a magic carpet ride. Ascents thru hills & mountains pull well because the CVT is always in the perfect gear.
But its acceleration is computer controlled & is terrible from 0 to 20mph. Past rubberized pulleys had bad reliability. Tho the Carbon graphite is strong, I believe Jatco(who makes CVTs for Caliber & Nissan Versa), has given extra reliability to the CVT by reducing stress at starting speeds. Pushing the gas pedal very hard above 35mph overcomes a holding economy detante on the pedal(is not in Calibers built after November 2006). Acceleration becomes more brisk, tho economy is greatly sacrificed. Yes, the CVT is not for pretend auto racers.
To get the last bit of CVT economy, you must be very very easy on the gas pedal(I mean rrrreeeeaaaaallllllllyyyyy easy). If you drive as you would other transmissions the CVT will take large chucks out of your MPG.
My Caliber is tuned very nicely, & I have gotten as high as 35mpg(vvveeerrryyyy easy driving). But this cold winter, short drives, & lots of cooldowns between gas fillings, & mileage has dropped to 26-7mpg.
But the CVT is a revelation! Throw the other auto transmissions away. You don't need a wallowing big car anymore for sensually genteel pleasurable driving.
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CVT - '03 Saturn Vue by krony
Mar 25, 2007 (4:37 am)
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I had a CVT on my '03 Saturn Vue and hated it. After a while I got used to the 'no shifting' but never really liked it.
 
The fuel mileage claims are a hoax. We never got better mileage on the CVT, especially on the highway (20mpg city/23-25 mpg hwy). I was expecting lower engine rpm and higher mileage on the highway.
 
I eventually traded it off because of the poor transmission dynamics that Saturn claimed was normal. (By the way you can no longer get a CVT on a Vue...) Maybe over time other manufacturers can imrove it to make it better. Would like to see what the Nissan CVT's drive like.
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CVT internal pressures by litesong1
May 04, 2007 (4:28 pm)
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Replying to: litesong1 (Jan 31, 2007 10:24 am)

This is an update of my Jan.31,2007 post. Under hard acceleration, CVT internal hydraulic pressures approach 1000 pounds per square inch. If you feather foot the Caliber CVT, pressures will be much reduced. For that reason, feather footing the Caliber CVT should give you extra MPG...above the extra MPG feather footing gives with other vehicles.
 
During the winter some of my tanks of gas dropped to 25-27MPG, dragging my average down to 28.4MPG. With the warming spring weather & summer mix gasoline, my average has risen to 29.5MPG. By my first year of ownership(September 28, 2007), I hope my average will be into the low 30 MPG range. May not sound impressive, but Caliber owners are having a bad time getting anywhere near EPA averages.

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