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#56 of 73 Re: lawsuit [carfan28]
May 22, 2007 (5:14 pm)
#57 of 73 What's wrong with this picture...
May 22, 2007 (11:32 pm)
The settlement documentation provided an interesting commentary on how these kind of things work. The woman who first noticed this problem and wanted to file a lawsuit will get a $10,000 "incentive award" for her trouble. The lawyers involved will get $9,800,000 for their efforts...
I do sorta wonder what the lawyerz did to justify such a hefty payday....
#58 of 73 Lawsuits
May 29, 2007 (8:31 pm)
To start, I have to fairly new Hondas (2005 odyssey and 2006 civic hybrid). Odysseys droning noise, which has not been solved, driving me nuts, as well as being paranoid, weather anything will brake again, related to it (already power steering, brakes and A-pipe replaced). Dealer wrote on their final report "Customer reports there is a moan in the drivetrain at about 2100 RPM's Test drove several times called tech line checked like vehicle found same type condition in other vehicles need to wait for honda to poss come out with a fix for this condition"
Guess what? Honda customer service does not see this as a problem. Condition that needs to be fixed is neglected, condition - vibration-resonance, which destroys moving or jointed parts, according to them is not a problem (but won't release this statement in written form, they'll just hang up the phone).
Probably those two ladies tried to tell that to honda customer service, but were bounced off the wall. What was the next step - advertisement on billboard "if you been hurt call 1888nnnnnnn". I am against trial lawyers, but big corporations don't deal with individuals, just like in that ad about whats in your wallet"
And about deviation from normal reading, why is it on the over reading side, I thought its a curve, which has similar downslopings on both sides with mean in the center, looks like honda shifted that to the right without noticing it. Hahaha. what a folk tale.
#59 of 73 Re: What's wrong with this picture... [jak666]
Jul 10, 2007 (4:08 pm)
I am not a lawyer, but I am familiar with how these firms work. First, they probably spent about 2-3 million litigating the case. There are 6 million consumers which will need to be mailed court documents - that alone will cost $2 million or more. Also, attorneys have to pay experts for their reports and testimony and spend other money on research to determine that there is a problem. The case was worked on for four years, and it will be another six months to get all consumers compensated. There were four attorneys involved that spent huge amounts of time and resources on the case. They all have staffs: receptionists and other assistants that have to be paid every week. When you divide the 9.5 million by four it is just over 2 million each. Take out all expenses and there is probably $1 million per attorney profit. Assuming they lose 25% of the time much of this goes to the costs accumulated on losing cases. This means each attorney may only pocket 500k - 600k for the case. This may be alot for some people, but not for business owners with advanced degrees.
#60 of 73 Re: What's wrong with this picture... [dartdata]
Jul 11, 2007 (6:35 pm)
I really feel for the lawyers.
#61 of 73 Re: What's wrong with this picture... [dartdata]
Jul 12, 2007 (3:44 pm)
dartdata---huh, are you serious or joking? Hard to tell....
There is something very wrong with a process in which the consumers net very minimal gain, especially when they are designated as a member of a "Class" without their personal consent. The resources of our court system are clogged up further, adding to the backlog that already exists.
This class action is one of hundreds filed every year in our country. We have more lawyers in the USA than China has scientists and India mathematicians and Japan engineers. Think about it.
And for each such case, "each attorney may only pocket 500k - 600k"
Unless we are seeing substantial revisions to case law that further benefits society (questionable at best), a deterrent for future corporate wrongdoing (again, very questionable given this particular case), or some sort of meaningful consumer benefit (questionable is being kind), you have to question the validity and logic of the uniquely American class action litigation system.
#62 of 73 Re: What's wrong with this picture... [dartdata]
Jul 13, 2007 (12:29 pm)
That reminds me of the idiot athlete who cried that he couldn't "Feed his kids" with his paltry millions. I got 3 of these notices...they all mean nothing to me. The attorney's fees would be better spent giving free oil changes to everyone. It's just as bad as the class-action suit about the doc fees in NJ. Punitive damages are great, but they should go to a cause to help those they hurt...mainly a lot of people...not a few.
#63 of 73 C'mon guys
Jul 13, 2007 (2:15 pm)
Beatuponlawyers.com is down the road thataway -->
#64 of 73 odom test?
Aug 18, 2007 (4:47 pm)
So how do you actually test to find out if your odometer actually is calibrated poorly? it seems to me that with it being 3-4% off, you would need to go over a hundred miles to actually detect the problem...
#65 of 73 Re: odom test? [kork13]
Aug 18, 2007 (6:37 pm)
I just took my '05 Touring R&N on a 2000 plus mile round trip and found the odometer to be dead-on accurate.