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Honda/Acura Odometer Class Action Suit

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#35 of 73 Re: Honda Odyssey Odometer Problems [ezshift5] by jmdmd1975

Feb 19, 2007 (4:42 pm)

Replying to: ezshift5 (Feb 10, 2007 8:16 am)
Hi,
I own a TL type S built during that period and have not received a letter. I heard about this today from my sister who caught it on the news.
But, I keep receiving a recall notice regarding the seat belt for an Acura I haven't had for 4 years !
And, I agree with all who say the mileage SHOULD be accurate. It has implications selling, warranty, trading in.

#36 of 73 Re: Honda Odyssey Odometer Problems [panmax] by elroy5

Feb 19, 2007 (5:03 pm)

Replying to: panmax (Feb 09, 2007 9:42 pm)
Honda just keeps collecting more lease fees and has to cover less warranty repairs because the miles on the odometer show more than actual miles.
 
I am not making excuses for Honda. But when you consider all the good-will repairs Honda does for it's customers (after the warranty has run out), it makes it hard to believe they did this to reduce warranty claims. Leases, would be another matter.

#37 of 73 Re: Honda Odyssey Odometer Problems [elroy5] by mstracid

Feb 20, 2007 (1:29 pm)

Replying to: elroy5 (Feb 19, 2007 5:03 pm)
Honda's/Acura's good graces? Geesh, I bought my TL 100 miles away and can't have it serviced at a Honda dealer 5 miles away. Resale, warranty, everything depend on the mileage and 4% can add up. I've never received a notice for this, only a transmission recall, which we had to drive 200 miles round trip to have serviced. I'm rather disgusted. I'd like to sell my car with 30,800 miles on it as opposed to 32K. It does make a difference.

#38 of 73 Re: Honda Odyssey Odometer Problems [mstracid] by frisconick

Feb 20, 2007 (1:48 pm)

Replying to: mstracid (Feb 20, 2007 1:29 pm)
Low miles on a car has a huge effect on trade-in value.

#39 of 73 Re: Honda Odyssey Odometer Problems [frisconick] by elroy5

Feb 20, 2007 (4:00 pm)

Replying to: frisconick (Feb 20, 2007 1:48 pm)
I just checked the kbb value on my Accord (03 EX V6, no nav.) I have 42,000 miles. The private party value was $14,910. Then I went back, and changed the mileage 4% (43,680). Guess what the change was.... $0. It came up with $14,910. When I sold my old 92 Accord, I got $1000 over the kbb value anyway. It's not so much about the miles when you sell your car. It's more about the condition the car is in.

#40 of 73 2006 TL by starman98

Feb 21, 2007 (11:29 am)

my 2006 TL hit 20K miles today.
 
I am very disappointed.....this is will probably be my last honda/Acura.
 
I wish I went with a IS350 instead....not I am stuck with this. How I see it now Honda is no better than Ford and Chevy.
 
I want a refund check!

#41 of 73 Re: Honda Odyssey Odometer Problems [elroy5] by frisconick

Feb 21, 2007 (2:29 pm)

Replying to: elroy5 (Feb 20, 2007 4:00 pm)
Yes the condition of the car is most important, but I tend to put a lot of miles on my cars.

#42 of 73 Re: 2006 TL [starman98] by ggesq

Feb 21, 2007 (2:32 pm)

Replying to: starman98 (Feb 21, 2007 11:29 am)
starman,
 
why are you disappointed- because of the odometer issue or are there some major mechanical and quality issues?

#43 of 73 Re: Honda Odyssey Odometer Problems [frisconick] by elroy5

Feb 21, 2007 (3:26 pm)

Replying to: frisconick (Feb 21, 2007 2:29 pm)
Let's say you would have 150,000 miles on your car, when you sell it. (Add 4% 6000 miles). I don't think it will make much difference to the buyer, if the odometer has 156,000 miles on it. From what I've been reading, other car makers do the same thing. I would not be surprised if this is not the last odometer case the Lawyers will try to make some easy money on.

#44 of 73 Re: Honda Odyssey Odometer Problems [elroy5] by fletcher3

Feb 23, 2007 (11:17 pm)

Replying to: elroy5 (Feb 21, 2007 3:26 pm)
Don't own a honda but the story on the forum cuaght my attention and I thought I would through my 2 cents in.
 
(only read about it here so that is the most I know about it)
 
IN MY OPINION:
Do I think Honda intentionally calibrated only one of their model's odomimeters to register 3-4% higher then they should: Most likely No, or if they did it would be more widespread and closer to an acceptable error rate hovering slightly over 1% and on more models.
 
HOWEVER, do I think they found it out after production and could have fixed it after extensive testing = OF COURSE
 
3-4% is significant enough when they are doing all of the testing on the vehicle before it is released to the public it would have been noticed.
 
POINT: They found out after it was in the car the cost/benifit or risk/reward ratios start playing a factor.
 
Would the cost of recalling every accord to fix the odimeter be financially worth it = NO
 
Moderate probability no one would notice and file a lawsuit therefore they don't need to spend the money on the recall, bonus is the mistake is in their favor for lease milage and maintence costs.
 
Solution roll the dice and hope nobody notices. If they do oh well we need to do the recall and give people the milage/money back they deserve anyways.
 
If you ask me heavy punative damages should be levied upon the company and an audit done on all models to see if it was pervasive throughout other models
 
Anyways that is my longwinded 2 cents
 
-Dave

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