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Honda Accord, Honda Civic, Acura RL, Acura TL, Honda Odyssey, Automotive News, Sedan
#27 of 73 Re: Here is a Local News Story on the issue out of Atlanta [thegraduate]
Feb 03, 2007 (9:43 am)
"1.) Mileage on new vehicles usually gets better as it breaks in over a few thousand miles. "
I have waited over 4 years and my Odyssey's fuel economy has not improved. Break in? Never saw any effect. Still use 5w20 oil too. Honda and many manufacturers do have a problem. When the sales staff boasts about EPA ratings, some buyers believe them and are justifiably angry if they never come close to those advertised ratings. No, Honda does not get a blanket excuse. The customer is still angry no matter what excuse may be concocted. Actually, Odyssey is worse than smaller Hondas in having more problem reaching EPA mileage estimates than smaller Hondas, from personal experience.
#28 of 73 Re: Here is a Local News Story on the issue out of Atlanta [panmax]
Feb 03, 2007 (11:07 am)
I guess I'm not angry because when driven as the EPA does, our car gets EPA mileage, or better.
#29 of 73 Re: Here is a Local News Story on the issue out of Atlanta [thegraduate]
Feb 05, 2007 (11:50 am)
My MDX gets 23.8 on long highway trips.
Well above estimates.
This has to do with my car being worth less on the backend due to higher than legitimate mileage.
Not to mention, the early drop of warranty.
#30 of 73 Honda Odyssey Odometer Problems
Feb 07, 2007 (10:57 pm)
Tomorrow I am turning in my leased 2004 Honda Odyssey EX. After owning two previous Acura products, this Odyssey was a huge disappointment. It never got better than 14 mpg around town and maybe, if the wind pushed us just right, 19-20 mpg on the highway. And then there was the mystery of how I managed to rack up so many miles on this restricted lease...which has never happened to me before. My current mileage is 43965. Just two weeks ago, I received paperwork telling me of this odometer issue. In the long run, since Honda will discount those miles by 5%, it will save me about $300 on the mileage overage. I made the decision to just turn in the lease because all car dealers were offering $3000 less than the lease residual on trade in. The vehicle is in very good condition. So much for Honda's Best Resell Value claim. Yes, that included two Honda dealerships. Fortunately, I had made the decision to buy a Hyundai Sante Fe even before I found out about the lawsuit. I am more than pleased with this new vehicle.
Habitat1 is right on with comments. I am a mechanical engineer, worked at an auto parts manufacturer (that manufactured instrument cluster panels among other things), and, therefore, know that quality control could be and should be better. It is within their capabilities to be more accurate. NASA manages. As you can see, This odometer error can cost the consumer money. And it's all about pleasing the customer.
I won't ever buy another Honda...I've learned my lesson.
#31 of 73 Re: Honda Odyssey Odometer Problems [dlfisher1]
Feb 09, 2007 (6:03 pm)
.... won't ever buy another Honda...I've learned my lesson.
....today's mail brought the infamous Honda high odometer readings pending lawsuit paperwork.
Keeping in mind that I graduated from a land grant college in California (not Princeton, Yale or Notre Dame like my naval officer buddies during times nautical)........
...just don't understand
all the hate and discontent...........
Honda has acknowledged the error (the 3 - 4 per cent optomistic odometer) - and agreed to extend warranty by 5%
..seems more than fair to me. Where have I gone wrong here?
#32 of 73 Re: Honda Odyssey Odometer Problems [dlfisher1]
Feb 09, 2007 (6:13 pm)
Good luck w/ the Sante Fe. I am sure you will find it to be a more positive experience than that of which compared to your Honda. Hopefully, Hyundai conforms to your high level of quality control. Finally,I'm sure at some point you'll discover the great resale value of the Sante Fe if you ever decide to get rid of it.
#33 of 73 Re: Honda Odyssey Odometer Problems [ezshift5]
Feb 09, 2007 (9:42 pm)
"...seems more than fair to me. Where have I gone wrong here?" End quote.
You are missing that Honda had to get caught by the legal system to make good on the odometer problem.
If the owner does not pursue a lawsuit, Honda just keeps collecting more lease fees and has to cover less warranty repairs because the miles on the odometer show more than actual miles. And those who have fast running odometers just before or just after the date of manufacture of the class action settlement do not receive any compensation even though their vehicles often have the same problem.
#34 of 73 Re: Honda Odyssey Odometer Problems [panmax]
Feb 10, 2007 (8:16 am)
..well - max - I grant you that Honda did not initiate action prior to the lawsuit.
I really didn't take understand (California land grant college, right?) your last sentence.
(But I do appreciate your time/perceptions.
#35 of 73 Re: Honda Odyssey Odometer Problems [ezshift5]
Feb 19, 2007 (4:42 pm)
I own a TL type S built during that period and have not received a letter. I heard about this today from my sister who caught it on the news.
But, I keep receiving a recall notice regarding the seat belt for an Acura I haven't had for 4 years !
And, I agree with all who say the mileage SHOULD be accurate. It has implications selling, warranty, trading in.
#36 of 73 Re: Honda Odyssey Odometer Problems [panmax]
Feb 19, 2007 (5:03 pm)
Honda just keeps collecting more lease fees and has to cover less warranty repairs because the miles on the odometer show more than actual miles.
I am not making excuses for Honda. But when you consider all the good-will repairs Honda does for it's customers (after the warranty has run out), it makes it hard to believe they did this to reduce warranty claims. Leases, would be another matter.