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Sedans Acura TL Honda/Acura Odometer Class Action Suit
73 messages, Last post on Jun 05, 2008 at 5:02 AM
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Replying to: badbuy (Feb 01, 2007 10:24 pm) It reads like this: 16 City / 21 Hwy Yes, you are gettling low mileage, but remember a couple of things. 1.) Mileage on new vehicles usually gets better as it breaks in over a few thousand miles. 2.) Winter formula fuels lower mileage by a good 10% in many cases (mine included - Accord dropped from 28 AVG to around 25-26 MPG) 3.) Honda isn't hiding the problem, because Honda didn't make the mileage estimates. The Environmental Protection Agency is responsible for that one. I'm not saying "don't be mad," but you should at least get mad at the party responsible for those numbers. *A question for you - Do you live in a hilly area? I'll explain my question later... |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 02, 2007 6:49 am)
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Replying to: tallman1 (Feb 02, 2007 10:41 am)  I've been in the Ridgeline forum a lot lately, and they all use shorthand for the name Ridgeline and write "RL." I should spend some time elsewhere for awhile it seems... Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I can't delete it now, but some of the rightful info still stands about winter fuels and break-ins. Have a great weekend all! 
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 02, 2007 6:49 am) I have waited over 4 years and my Odyssey's fuel economy has not improved. Break in? Never saw any effect. Still use 5w20 oil too. Honda and many manufacturers do have a problem. When the sales staff boasts about EPA ratings, some buyers believe them and are justifiably angry if they never come close to those advertised ratings. No, Honda does not get a blanket excuse. The customer is still angry no matter what excuse may be concocted. Actually, Odyssey is worse than smaller Hondas in having more problem reaching EPA mileage estimates than smaller Hondas, from personal experience.
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Replying to: panmax (Feb 03, 2007 8:43 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 03, 2007 10:07 am) Well above estimates. So what.... This has to do with my car being worth less on the backend due to higher than legitimate mileage. Not to mention, the early drop of warranty. |
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Tomorrow I am turning in my leased 2004 Honda Odyssey EX. After owning two previous Acura products, this Odyssey was a huge disappointment. It never got better than 14 mpg around town and maybe, if the wind pushed us just right, 19-20 mpg on the highway. And then there was the mystery of how I managed to rack up so many miles on this restricted lease...which has never happened to me before. My current mileage is 43965. Just two weeks ago, I received paperwork telling me of this odometer issue. In the long run, since Honda will discount those miles by 5%, it will save me about $300 on the mileage overage. I made the decision to just turn in the lease because all car dealers were offering $3000 less than the lease residual on trade in. The vehicle is in very good condition. So much for Honda's Best Resell Value claim. Yes, that included two Honda dealerships. Fortunately, I had made the decision to buy a Hyundai Sante Fe even before I found out about the lawsuit. I am more than pleased with this new vehicle. Habitat1 is right on with comments. I am a mechanical engineer, worked at an auto parts manufacturer (that manufactured instrument cluster panels among other things), and, therefore, know that quality control could be and should be better. It is within their capabilities to be more accurate. NASA manages. As you can see, This odometer error can cost the consumer money. And it's all about pleasing the customer. I won't ever buy another Honda...I've learned my lesson.
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Replying to: dlfisher1 (Feb 07, 2007 9:57 pm) ....today's mail brought the infamous Honda high odometer readings pending lawsuit paperwork. Keeping in mind that I graduated from a land grant college in California (not Princeton, Yale or Notre Dame like my naval officer buddies during times nautical)........ ...just don't understand all the hate and discontent........... Honda has acknowledged the error (the 3 - 4 per cent optomistic odometer) - and agreed to extend warranty by 5% ..seems more than fair to me. Where have I gone wrong here? best, ez.. |
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Replying to: dlfisher1 (Feb 07, 2007 9:57 pm)  
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Replying to: ezshift5 (Feb 09, 2007 5:03 pm) You are missing that Honda had to get caught by the legal system to make good on the odometer problem. If the owner does not pursue a lawsuit, Honda just keeps collecting more lease fees and has to cover less warranty repairs because the miles on the odometer show more than actual miles. And those who have fast running odometers just before or just after the date of manufacture of the class action settlement do not receive any compensation even though their vehicles often have the same problem.
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