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Honda/Acura Odometer Class Action Suit

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What is this discussion about? Honda Accord, Honda Civic, Acura RL, Acura TL, Honda Odyssey, Automotive News, Sedan

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#21 of 73 Re: My 2006 Accord Odometer - [newcivicman] by habitat1

Jan 21, 2007 (3:33 am)

Replying to: newcivicman (Jan 20, 2007 2:50 pm)
And my career (coaching) free throw percentatge is 100%. I made 3 of 3 yesterday coaching my 3rd grade girls team.
 
You may very well have an accurate odometer in your 2006 Civic, but I would try a longer test than 20 miles and make sure the 1/10th mile indicators match.

#22 of 73 Honda-Acura fools the public! by badbuy

Feb 01, 2007 (11:17 pm)

Have a 2006 RL "new" purchase in november. Lots of things going wrong plus it took over 2 months for acura to respond to a 6 page letter. Now saw this odometer issue....guess what. Took my mobile GPS in the car, put odometer on "ZERO" miles, put GPS on ZERO miles and started to drive. Over two days, the odometer was consistent in being 8-10 miles MORE than the GPS reading. So at a minimum, it's 8 miles off in 100 miles which equals an 8% error rate.
 
So when the odometer reads 36,000 miles, it's actually 2, 880 miles TOO MUCH! You can't convince me that Honda and Acura didn't know that they were cheating the consumer???? Of course they are, and with the problems that I'm having with a car that's got about 5,000 miles on it, they don't make a good product either.......what a mistake in not buying any car other than a HONDA product

#23 of 73 Re: Here is a Local News Story on the issue out of Atlanta [micro99] by badbuy

Feb 01, 2007 (11:24 pm)

Replying to: micro99 (Jan 04, 2007 9:30 pm)
I just posted my experience comparing my mobile GPS calculation with the odometer reading over two day 100 mile tests. The odometer is AL LEAST 8% off!!!!! That means that the 15 miles to the gallon that I am getting from this new lemon is actually LESS THAN 14MPG!!!!!
 
Even ignoring all of the problems and warranty work that needs repair on my RL so far, I would never have considered this car if I had known that Honda was hiding a problem like this on a car that got POOR gas mileage despite the false sticker stating 17MPG !!!!!
 
Too bad the NTSA doesn't get after this company for such misrepresentation.
 
A real bad buy that I'm stuck with for at least 3 years....

#24 of 73 Re: Here is a Local News Story on the issue out of Atlanta [badbuy] by thegraduate

Feb 02, 2007 (7:49 am)

Replying to: badbuy (Feb 01, 2007 11:24 pm)
The Ridgeline, since introduction I believe, has never had a sticker that said 17 MPG.
 
It reads like this:
 
16 City / 21 Hwy
 
Yes, you are gettling low mileage, but remember a couple of things.
 
1.) Mileage on new vehicles usually gets better as it breaks in over a few thousand miles.
 
2.) Winter formula fuels lower mileage by a good 10% in many cases (mine included - Accord dropped from 28 AVG to around 25-26 MPG)
 
3.) Honda isn't hiding the problem, because Honda didn't make the mileage estimates. The Environmental Protection Agency is responsible for that one. I'm not saying "don't be mad," but you should at least get mad at the party responsible for those numbers.
 
*A question for you - Do you live in a hilly area? I'll explain my question later...

#25 of 73 Re: Here is a Local News Story on the issue out of Atlanta [thegraduate] by tallman1

Feb 02, 2007 (11:41 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 02, 2007 7:49 am)
I think he is talking about the Acura RL, not the Ridgeline.

#26 of 73 Re: Here is a Local News Story on the issue out of Atlanta [tallman1] by thegraduate

Feb 02, 2007 (7:21 pm)

Replying to: tallman1 (Feb 02, 2007 11:41 am)
Ahh, that would be correct!
 
I've been in the Ridgeline forum a lot lately, and they all use shorthand for the name Ridgeline and write "RL."
 
I should spend some time elsewhere for awhile it seems...
 
Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I can't delete it now, but some of the rightful info still stands about winter fuels and break-ins.
 
Have a great weekend all!

#27 of 73 Re: Here is a Local News Story on the issue out of Atlanta [thegraduate] by panmax

Feb 03, 2007 (9:43 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 02, 2007 7:49 am)
"1.) Mileage on new vehicles usually gets better as it breaks in over a few thousand miles. "
 
I have waited over 4 years and my Odyssey's fuel economy has not improved. Break in? Never saw any effect. Still use 5w20 oil too. Honda and many manufacturers do have a problem. When the sales staff boasts about EPA ratings, some buyers believe them and are justifiably angry if they never come close to those advertised ratings. No, Honda does not get a blanket excuse. The customer is still angry no matter what excuse may be concocted. Actually, Odyssey is worse than smaller Hondas in having more problem reaching EPA mileage estimates than smaller Hondas, from personal experience.

#28 of 73 Re: Here is a Local News Story on the issue out of Atlanta [panmax] by thegraduate

Feb 03, 2007 (11:07 am)

Replying to: panmax (Feb 03, 2007 9:43 am)
I guess I'm not angry because when driven as the EPA does, our car gets EPA mileage, or better.

#29 of 73 Re: Here is a Local News Story on the issue out of Atlanta [thegraduate] by scottm123

Feb 05, 2007 (11:50 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 03, 2007 11:07 am)
My MDX gets 23.8 on long highway trips.
Well above estimates.
So what....
 
This has to do with my car being worth less on the backend due to higher than legitimate mileage.
Not to mention, the early drop of warranty.

#30 of 73 Honda Odyssey Odometer Problems by dlfisher1

Feb 07, 2007 (10:57 pm)

Tomorrow I am turning in my leased 2004 Honda Odyssey EX. After owning two previous Acura products, this Odyssey was a huge disappointment. It never got better than 14 mpg around town and maybe, if the wind pushed us just right, 19-20 mpg on the highway. And then there was the mystery of how I managed to rack up so many miles on this restricted lease...which has never happened to me before. My current mileage is 43965. Just two weeks ago, I received paperwork telling me of this odometer issue. In the long run, since Honda will discount those miles by 5%, it will save me about $300 on the mileage overage. I made the decision to just turn in the lease because all car dealers were offering $3000 less than the lease residual on trade in. The vehicle is in very good condition. So much for Honda's Best Resell Value claim. Yes, that included two Honda dealerships. Fortunately, I had made the decision to buy a Hyundai Sante Fe even before I found out about the lawsuit. I am more than pleased with this new vehicle.
 
Habitat1 is right on with comments. I am a mechanical engineer, worked at an auto parts manufacturer (that manufactured instrument cluster panels among other things), and, therefore, know that quality control could be and should be better. It is within their capabilities to be more accurate. NASA manages. As you can see, This odometer error can cost the consumer money. And it's all about pleasing the customer.
 
I won't ever buy another Honda...I've learned my lesson.

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