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#14 of 73 Re: Interestingly... [habitat1] by thegraduate Jan 08, 2007 (8:18 am)
Replying to: habitat1 (Jan 08, 2007 5:34 am) A speedometer and an odomoter are related, don't forget that. If one is off, the other likely is too. When the speedometer in my 1996 Accord stopped working (it would go down to zero, even at highway speeds) the odometer stopped working as well. When it would pick back up (it was off-and-on) the odometer would start rolling again. Replies to this message: habitat1 (Jan 08, 2007 10:00 am) cstiles (Jan 08, 2007 12:52 pm)
#15 of 73 Re: Interestingly... [thegraduate] by habitat1 Jan 08, 2007 (10:00 am)
Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 08, 2007 8:18 am) While it is true that the speedometer and odometer are often "related" as you describe (i.e. both working or both not), they are not necessarily related in their calibration.   In the case of my 911, the speedometer reads 5-7% too high, but the odometer is spot on, compared to an independent GPS. In the case of my former Nissan Maxima, the speedometer was about 3% high, the odometer 2%. And in the case of our MDX, the speedometer is close to spot on, whereas the odometer is 3% high. So one reading high or low doesn't necessarily mean the other one is. And, once I figured out the percentage of discrepency, it was constant. No variation due to temperature, relative humidity or stereo volume.   If you do a lot of driving over the same 370 mile route like I have done the last 20 years, you notice these little discrepencies, which turn out to be as much as a 12+ mile swing in odometer readings. Someone once suggested that maybe the higher reading comes from doing more "passing" rather than driving the entire route in the right hand lane. So on one particularly boring drive by myself, I went back and forth between the right and left lanes about once per mile, passing or not. It added about 0.2 miles to the trip. And nearly made me sea-sick. Replies to this message: cstiles (Jan 08, 2007 12:52 pm)
#16 of 73 Re: Interestingly... [habitat1] by cstiles Jan 08, 2007 (12:52 pm)
Replying to: habitat1 (Jan 08, 2007 10:00 am) Good posts, Habitat. You've certainly educated me. Perhaps there is a conspiracy, or at the very least an arrogant, casual attitude about odometer accuracy at Honda. If true, they should be taken to the woodshed with respect to their product liability.   Besides, if the instruments are indeed subject to being slightly inaccurate, they should be off kilter in both directions. Apparently that is not the case, which is suspect by itself.
#17 of 73 Re: Interestingly... [habitat1] by webby1 Jan 08, 2007 (1:31 pm)
Replying to: habitat1 (Jan 08, 2007 5:34 am) I agree with logic....also what about all the cars that are returned from leases and the penalties for going over the allowed km ?....who will get the monies now ???!!!! Regards, Webby Replies to this message: cstiles (Jan 08, 2007 2:39 pm)
#18 of 73 Re: Interestingly... [webby1] by cstiles Jan 08, 2007 (2:39 pm)
Replying to: webby1 (Jan 08, 2007 1:31 pm) Under the class action settlement, Honda agrees to reimburse mileage fees (using a specified formula--2 or 3% if I recall) that were assessed to lessees. It's not a huge amount of money, but some people can get that refunded.   Same thing applies to people who had to pay for out-of-warranty repairs that were just outside the 36,000 mile ceiling. I threw away the paperwork, but it's all specified in the fine print.
#19 of 73 If you go back into both the... by fibber2 Jan 19, 2007 (7:06 pm)
Ody 99-2004, and the Ody 99-04 Problems & Solutions thread a few years, you will find that quite a number of us discussed the issue. I reported mine as being off by several %, picking up three to four tenths of a mile on any given 10 mile stretch of interstate. That says my van has probably close to 2500 miles less on it than the indicated 72k. To me this has had nominal economic impact, but to others it could be significant.   Steve
#20 of 73 Re: My 2006 Accord Odometer - [thegraduate] by newcivicman Jan 20, 2007 (1:50 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 07, 2007 8:39 pm) I just drove a 20 mile distance in my 2006 Civic LX and checked the odometer against my Magellan 3050 GPS and they matched exactly. 20 miles odometer reading on the civic and 20 miles traveled on the GPS. Replies to this message: habitat1 (Jan 21, 2007 2:33 am)
#21 of 73 Re: My 2006 Accord Odometer - [newcivicman] by habitat1 Jan 21, 2007 (2:33 am)
Replying to: newcivicman (Jan 20, 2007 1:50 pm) And my career (coaching) free throw percentatge is 100%. I made 3 of 3 yesterday coaching my 3rd grade girls team.   You may very well have an accurate odometer in your 2006 Civic, but I would try a longer test than 20 miles and make sure the 1/10th mile indicators match.
#22 of 73 Honda-Acura fools the public! by badbuy Feb 01, 2007 (10:17 pm)
Have a 2006 RL "new" purchase in november. Lots of things going wrong plus it took over 2 months for acura to respond to a 6 page letter. Now saw this odometer issue....guess what. Took my mobile GPS in the car, put odometer on "ZERO" miles, put GPS on ZERO miles and started to drive. Over two days, the odometer was consistent in being 8-10 miles MORE than the GPS reading. So at a minimum, it's 8 miles off in 100 miles which equals an 8% error rate.   So when the odometer reads 36,000 miles, it's actually 2, 880 miles TOO MUCH! You can't convince me that Honda and Acura didn't know that they were cheating the consumer???? Of course they are, and with the problems that I'm having with a car that's got about 5,000 miles on it, they don't make a good product either.......what a mistake in not buying any car other than a HONDA product
#23 of 73 Re: Here is a Local News Story on the issue out of Atlanta [micro99] by badbuy Feb 01, 2007 (10:24 pm)
Replying to: micro99 (Jan 04, 2007 8:30 pm) I just posted my experience comparing my mobile GPS calculation with the odometer reading over two day 100 mile tests. The odometer is AL LEAST 8% off!!!!! That means that the 15 miles to the gallon that I am getting from this new lemon is actually LESS THAN 14MPG!!!!!   Even ignoring all of the problems and warranty work that needs repair on my RL so far, I would never have considered this car if I had known that Honda was hiding a problem like this on a car that got POOR gas mileage despite the false sticker stating 17MPG !!!!!   Too bad the NTSA doesn't get after this company for such misrepresentation.   A real bad buy that I'm stuck with for at least 3 years.... Replies to this message: thegraduate (Feb 02, 2007 6:49 am) tallman1 (Feb 02, 2007 10:41 am) thegraduate (Feb 02, 2007 6:21 pm) panmax (Feb 03, 2007 8:43 am) thegraduate (Feb 03, 2007 10:07 am) and 1 more...

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