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#1 of 17 Lexus GS350AWD vs Infiniti M35X by allagaroo Jan 04, 2007 (2:22 pm)
Now that Lexus has upgraded the horsepower to 303 the equation may have changed. My lease is about to expire on my'03 Audi A6 2,7T w/ quattro and the main prerequisite for my next car is AWD. I have narrowed it down to the GS350 and the M35X and have test driven both of them. The Lexus is now quicker off the line and in passing situations than the M. The M handles better as best as I could tell since the test run in the Lexus was on straight roads in traffic. The Lexus is quieter, more refined and more luxurious feeling but the M is sportier and more fun to drive. The M steering has more feedback and the Lexus steering feels somewhat disconnected in comparison.The Lexus is smaller inside and has a tiny trunk. It appears that the technology in the M is better somewhat. The M doesn't have automatic door locking which I like and in order to get HID headlights you need to order the advanced tech package( which has features I don't want) and then add on another $800 for the lights. The Infiniti dealerships are more high pressure and the Lexus dealerships are far classier however I have no idea who has better service. Now that the Lexus has upped the hp I'm curious to hear opinions on preferences. I change my mind every day. Thanks, Jerry Replies to this message: bibimkim (Feb 26, 2007 12:24 pm)
#2 of 17 Which to Buy by mwg Jan 07, 2007 (3:37 pm)
I can understand Allegaro's quandry. Before I bought my M35X 9 months ago I was torn between the Infiniti and the Lexus. Lexus's outstanding quality reputation, and the fact that it is the leading selling luxury car in the country makes it difficult to make another choice. What convinced me was the overwhelming choice of the Infiniti by all the car magazines and Consumer's Reports. I figured that these writers are substantiaLY more sensitive to the nuances and differences between the cars than I am. Furthermore, they generally drive these cars for a full week. I am confident that I made the right decision. You seem to have a good appreciation of the primary differnces between the two cars. The bottom line is that you can't go wrong with either of these cars. The are both top of the line.   EmGee Replies to this message: allagaroo (Jan 07, 2007 8:22 pm) achonko (Jan 17, 2007 10:47 am) allagaroo (Jan 17, 2007 12:58 pm)
#3 of 17 Re: Which to Buy [mwg] by allagaroo Jan 07, 2007 (8:22 pm)
Replying to: mwg (Jan 07, 2007 3:37 pm) Thanks EmGee. Most of the car mag's discuss the GS 300 not the 350. It was the acceleration and quiteness of the Lexus that has me considering it. Have you found the M noisy at highway speeds? Replies to this message: achonko (Jan 17, 2007 10:47 am) allagaroo (Jan 17, 2007 12:58 pm)
#4 of 17 Re: Which to Buy [allagaroo] by achonko Jan 17, 2007 (10:47 am)
Replying to: allagaroo (Jan 07, 2007 8:22 pm) Have you thought about the Acura RL, Audi A6 and the BMW 535xi? Test drive the RL and A6, you might be interested, and if you are in no hurry, you may want to test drive the 535xi in April as well. Good luck Replies to this message: allagaroo (Jan 17, 2007 12:58 pm)
#5 of 17 Re: Which to Buy [achonko] by allagaroo Jan 17, 2007 (12:58 pm)
Replying to: achonko (Jan 17, 2007 10:47 am) Funny you should say that! I currently have a '03 A6 2.7T that's coming off lease and had a '00. I love the car and had planned to get another one until I heard how much the lease payments went up (over$200 mnth). I drove a friend of mine to NJ to pick up a A8 he purchased and the mgr. told me about a $2500 owners loyalty that had just commenced. I went to my local dealer the next day and he was aware of it and saved me a little over the NJ dealer plus the obvious convenience. Left a deposit and will pick car up in March when my lease expires. I was going to order the M35X the next day!!!!!!!!! 2007 A6 3.2Q Black/Black Premium Convenience Technology 18" wheels w/ all seasons 245/40 heated steering wheel Audi care Thanks for the Advice! J
#6 of 17 Re: Lexus GS350AWD vs Infiniti M35X [allagaroo] by bibimkim Feb 26, 2007 (12:24 pm)
Replying to: allagaroo (Jan 04, 2007 2:22 pm) This is uncanny. I previously drove an 02 Audi A6 2.7t and narrowed my search down to the M35x and the GS350 awd. Like yourself, a prerequisite for my next vehicle is that it had to be AWD. After driving a number of awd cars in this price segment (A6 3.2 quattro, BMW 530xi, Lexus GS350 awd and Infiniti M35x) I quickly narrowed it down to the infiniti and lexus. Both cars clearly excelled in fit, finish, features, performance and price. My observations are as follows: M35x is clearly more of a driver's car and although it lacks the extra horses that GS 350 comes equipped with, it felt more torquey throughout the powerband, whereas the lexus peaked at about 4000rpm. In terms of driver feedback, the M35x gets the nod...precise steering, agile cornerning for a 2 ton vehicle, hardly a trace of over or understeer...its stability on the road definitely lends itself to increased driver confidence. No doubt, the bumps and ruts are more pronounced than the GS...but such is the drawbacks for having stiffer suspension and a bigger tire/wheel package. As for creature comforts, both offer similar standard features...really comes down to personal taste. Personally, I was wowed by the layout of the M35x's dash and console....very user friendly with intelligent layout of buttons and knobs. And the wood trim rocks! An understated and classy rosewood finish. In terms of price, you will get a far better deal on the M35x. Not sure what they have in store for March but they are running a great lease special for Feb. 27 months/I paid $3200 out of pocket (includes bank fee, 1st month payment, taxes, dealer admin fee, minimal cap cost reduction) and I'm paying $419/month....although I probably could have gotten a better deal if I nickle and dimed a bit more....bottom line, salesguys are the same everywhere! Definitely work out your numbers before you walk in so there are no surprises. A great tool to have is Leasepro. Check it out. Hope this helps!
#7 of 17 Lexus GS350AWD vs MS35X by snuggy3814 Jun 06, 2007 (8:55 am)
I have been car hunting and have narrowed it down to the GS350 & the MS35X. I have read comments on purchaes on both vehicles and am still having a hard time deciding which car to purchase. I heard a rumor recently that Infinity is possibly pulling out of the US. If this is true what will that do to the value of Infinity autos? Has anyone heard this rumor? Can anyone give me add'l info to help me make a decision on my purchase? Replies to this message: thenebean (Jun 15, 2007 12:30 pm)
#8 of 17 What can I say ...... by twq83 Jun 06, 2007 (1:08 pm)
Third Party Comparison:                       2007 Lexus GS 350 4dr Sedan AWD (3.5L 6cyl 6A)         2007 Infiniti M35 x AWD 4dr Sedan AWD (3.5L 6cyl 5A)      change change Pricing Lexus Advantages GS 350 M35 MSRP* $46,100 $44,550      Warranty Lexus Advantages GS 350 M35 Roadside 4 yr. / Unlimited mi. 4 yr. / 60000 mi. Colors Lexus Advantages GS 350 M35 Exterior Color Chips 10 Available 8 Available Base Engine Lexus Advantages GS 350 M35 Horsepower 303 hp 6200 rpm 275 hp 6200 rpm Torque 274 ft-lbs. 3600 rpm 268 ft-lbs. 4800 rpm Tires and Wheels Lexus Advantages GS 350 M35 Front Tires 225/50R17 W run flat 245/45R18 V                                    all season Tires 225/50R17 W run flat 245/45R18 V                                    all season Roof and Glass Lexus Advantages GS 350 M35                                    Front wipers - intermittent variable Front wipers - rain sensing Optional Not Available Seating Lexus Advantages GS 350 M35 Driver Seat Ventilated Optional Not Available Passenger Seat Ventilated Optional Not Available Power Features Lexus Advantages GS 350 M35 Power Retractable Outside Mirrors Standard Not Available Convenience Lexus Advantages GS 350 M35 Exterior Entry Lighting Standard Not Available Comfort Lexus Advantages GS 350 M35 Air Filtration interior active charcoal air filter interior air filtration Memorized Settings Lexus Advantages GS 350 M35 Number of Drivers 3 2 Passenger Seat Standard Not Available Safety Features Lexus Advantages GS 350 M35 Brakes - Front ventilated disc 13.1 in. diameter 1.2 in. width ventilated disc                                    12.6 in. diameter                                    1.1 in. width Brakes - Rear ventilated disc 12.2 in. diameter .7 in. width ventilated disc                                    12.1 in. diameter                                       .6 in. width Side Air Bag dual front and dual front dual rear Knee airbags dual front Not Available Seatbelt Pretensioners front front and rear Xenon Headlights Standard Optional Headlight Auto Delay Standard Not Available Headlight Cleaners high pressure washers - Optional Not Available Daytime Running Lights Standard Not Available Parking Assist rear parking sensors - Optional Not Available Rolling Code Security rolling code key Not Available Standard Audio System Lexus Advantages GS 350 M35 Cassette Standard Not Available Radio Data System Standard Not Available Speed Sensitive Volume Control speed sensitive volume control speed sensitive volume control - Optional Total Number of Speakers 10 6 Subwoofers 1 Not Available Optional Audio System Lexus Advantages GS 350 M35 Cassette Available Not Available CD In-Dash 6 CD/DVD 6 CD player Radio Data System Available Not Available Subwoofers 1 Not Available Watts 330 Not Available Telematics Lexus Advantages GS 350 M35 Satellite Communications System Lexus Link - Optional Not Available Phone Antenna and In-Glass Antenna in-glass phone antenna Not Available Handling Lexus Advantages GS 350 M35 Aerodynamic Drag Coefficient .27 .28 EPA Mileage Estimates Lexus Advantages GS 350 M35 City 20 mpg. 17 mpg. Highway 27 mpg. 24 mpg. Range in Miles Lexus Advantages GS 350 M35 City 376 mi. 340 mi. Highway 508 mi. 480 mi. Exterior Lexus Advantages GS 350 M35 Width 71.7 in. 70.8 in. Weight 3869 lbs. 4043 lbs. * Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price excludes taxes, license, title, optional or regionally required equipment, and destination charge. The destination charge may vary from state to state.       Comparison says it all.............
#9 of 17 Re: Lexus GS350AWD vs MS35X [snuggy3814] by thenebean Jun 15, 2007 (12:30 pm)
Replying to: snuggy3814 (Jun 06, 2007 8:55 am) infiniti is not going anywhere. they have some great product now, and some great new stuff coming out soon. you'll be fine buying an infiniti if you choose.   -thene
#10 of 17 Gas mileage by hemsley1 Jun 18, 2007 (8:21 am)
I'm looking at the M35 and the Lexus. I really like them both, so i'm really starting to look at the smallest things. My question is...What kind of gas mileage have you guys been getting? I know the M35 is around 18mpg with city and highway. What is your guys MPG in the GS350? Replies to this message: chucko3 (Jun 18, 2007 3:07 pm) mmoreno1978 (Jun 27, 2007 12:28 pm)

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