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Re: Private Sale [Mr_Shiftright]
by isellhondas
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Sep 19, 2008 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 17, 2008 9:06 am)
Years ago in So. Calif, a friend of a friend sold a very nice Oldsmobile that was probably five years old. It had been well taken car of but it had something like 120,000 miles. The price wass very attractive because of the miles and it sold quickly. The seller gave him all of the maintenance records and told him that as far as he knew the car was sound. He also reminded the new buyer that it did have a lot of miles.
Three months later( I think) the transmission went bad and the seller ended up in Small Claims Court.
The miserable judge made him pay for half the cost of a rebuild!
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- #187 of 236
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Re: Private Sale [isellhondas]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Sep 19, 2008 (1:42 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Sep 19, 2008 12:59 pm)
We all think scribbling "AS IS" over everything exonerates us from all legal assaults, but here are two cases where it did not.
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Re: Private Sale [Mr_Shiftright]
by jipster
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Sep 19, 2008 (6:15 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 19, 2008 1:42 pm)
You'll always have your freak lawsuits (ala McDonalds hot coffee) and bonehead judges, but 99% of the time a car sold "as is" is the responsibility of the buyer, should any future problems arise. Of course, as you noted, selling a car with bad brakes, with a repair estimate from "Brake World" in the glove compartment, is a lawsuit the seller will not win.
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Re: Private Sale [jipster]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Sep 19, 2008 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: jipster (Sep 19, 2008 6:15 pm)
yeah I guess but the McDonald's lawsuit was successful for the person who sued. Point is, don't think AS IS excuses you from being careful about what you say and what you do. It's much better to shut up and say as little as possible, or keep in vague----"she's a beauty. Runs like a top!" But if you say "rebuilt engine" when you just put on a cylinder head----watch out!
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Bad Title
by oldfarmer50
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Jan 13, 2009 (3:15 pm)
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Occasionally on Craigslist I see ads for cars with the heading "For Parts Only, Bad Title". I wonder how you get a "bad title". Does this mean the car is stolen?
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- #191 of 236
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Re: Bad Title [oldfarmer50]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Jan 13, 2009 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 13, 2009 3:15 pm)
Not sure what that means...probably means no title or just a Bill of Sale or maybe an old title with some strange signatures on it. (people nobody knows).
If the car is not worth too much, it's really best to throw the old title away if it's messed up or crossed out or some such, and just get a valid Bill of Sale from the person you bought it from.
But if the car has real value, DMV might ask you to post bond, which is a pain.
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Re: Bad Title [oldfarmer50]
by cccompson
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Jan 13, 2009 (5:35 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 13, 2009 3:15 pm)
Or it could mean that a vehicle has a salvage title.
The important thing is that the seller is conveying that such a vehicle is only suitable for parting out.
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Re: Bad Title [cccompson]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Jan 13, 2009 (5:46 pm)
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Replying to: cccompson (Jan 13, 2009 5:35 pm)
True, true but that's an odd way to phrase it...a salvage title isn't a "bad" title, it's a perfectly legal document.
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Re: Bad Title [Mr_Shiftright]
by cccompson
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Jan 14, 2009 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 13, 2009 5:46 pm)
Not that I necessarily disagree but I see ads from time to time that tout a "good title." Presumably, such a phrase means that it is not a salvage (or "rebuilt") title.
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Re: Bad Title [cccompson]
by qbrozen
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Jan 14, 2009 (7:42 pm)
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Replying to: cccompson (Jan 14, 2009 6:28 pm)
kind of getting off track ... I think ... but this brings up a bit of a pet peeve of mine.
When I see someone stating "clean title" or "clean carfax," it makes me think they are hiding something. If it has had no accidents, I'd say "no accidents." If it has had an accident that doesn't show up on carfax, that's when I'd say (if I were dishonest) "clean carfax." I'm not disclosing the accident, but I'm not telling a lie, either.
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