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Re: Buying Used Car from private out of town buyer [cccompson] by steine13
May 18, 2008 (1:35 pm)
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Replying to: cccompson (May 18, 2008 7:24 am)

It's gotten so bad that the the state tax department will sometimes send a letter out later to the seller seeking to verify the sale amount
 
Here in MI the secretary of state people will sometimes decide on their own that something's fishy and assess a higher price. The law says that use tax is calculated on the "sale price or retail price, whichever is higher."
 
This made the newspaper some years back when they decided some lady was scamming them with the price of a used RV. It got to be a bit of a mess because the lady apparently was a pillar of the community and hadn't lied at all, and the "retail price" was taken straight out of one of the more idiotic price guides.
 
I'm all for this law, but in my version, if they don't like the price, they should assess the car... and then give the buyer the option of turning the car over to the state in exchange for, say, 90% of the assessed value. I'd be all over that ;->
 
-Mathias
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Re: Buying Used Car from private out of town buyer [cccompson] by dtownfb
May 20, 2008 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: cccompson (May 18, 2008 7:24 am)

This happened to me the purchase of my current vehicle. I live in PA. I guess they did not believe the price of the car and sent the letter to verify. I simply put the price of the car on the letter and sent a copy of the signed and notarized bill of sale.
 
The state is looking to get their piece of the pie.
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Private Sale by 2doorpost
Sep 13, 2008 (6:09 am)
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Here's one that just happened-
 
My kid had just picked up a screaming deal on Craigslist-(2004 Cavalier-3300 bucks) his old car (a 2000 Cavalier) was worse for the wear of 8 years of so-so maintenance and typical Midwest rust on top and underneath. After trying to get decent money for the car- decided to dump it back on Craigs for 800.
1/2 later phone is ringing off the hook- knew I priced it too low but wanted it gone.
Young kid and boss show up 2 hours later- drive the car - like it- grind 25 bucks off of me and agree to take it a few days later. Kid is "desperate for the car" No wheels.
 Day comes and kid doesn't have ride because he's watching his little baby- we drop car off-
Few hours later - car is listed
on Craigslist for 1500.00 more.
 
Moral of the story. Be happy its out of my life and feel sorry for whoever paid the 2 grand for it. They were screwed.
And don't take to much stock in what a buyer tells you.
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Re: Private Sale [2doorpost] by qbrozen
Sep 15, 2008 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: 2doorpost (Sep 13, 2008 6:09 am)

Be happy its out of my life and feel sorry for whoever paid the 2 grand for it.
 
Well, nobody said they actually got what they were asking for it.
But, yeah, the probably made a few bucks if they had patience.
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Re: Private Sale [qbrozen] by 2doorpost
Sep 15, 2008 (8:21 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Sep 15, 2008 8:18 am)

With me it was a matter of having too many cars in the yard- plus the fact that knowing the car needed so many repairs (which was told to the buyer) that 800-1000 was a fair price (without getting sued in the end)
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Re: Private Sale [2doorpost] by qbrozen
Sep 15, 2008 (8:31 am)
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Replying to: 2doorpost (Sep 15, 2008 8:21 am)

I completely understand. And I would have done the same thing. At least YOU can sleep soundly at night. The person who flipped it is the one that needs to deal with the consequences.
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Re: Private Sale [2doorpost] by jipster
Sep 16, 2008 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: 2doorpost (Sep 15, 2008 8:21 am)

without getting sued in the end
 
You told the buyer the needed repairs. You wouldn't have gotten sued.
 
Even if you hadn't told of needed repairs, old cars are sold "as is".
 
I try to sell my cars at a price high enough to bring top dollar, and low enough to generate enough calls to have it sold within a week or two.
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Re: Private Sale [jipster] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Sep 17, 2008 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: jipster (Sep 16, 2008 10:54 am)

Not always jip. Anyone can sue you for any reason they like. I was sued once on a used car that I had sold two years prior!! Sure, the case was thrown out but I had to hire an attorney nonetheless. Buyer claimed it was in a flood. FORTUNATELY, he had the car checked out by a 3rd party prior to purchase, and this weakened his case considerably.
 
If you "misrepresent" the car, even if you advertise it AS IS, there are circumstances where you could be sued. For instance, if there's a VIN # issue (even if you didn't know about it), or if you said the car only had two owners but later the records show 12 owners, (and believed it) or if there's provable fraud, blah blah.
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Re: Private Sale [Mr_Shiftright] by isellhondas
Sep 19, 2008 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 17, 2008 9:06 am)

Years ago in So. Calif, a friend of a friend sold a very nice Oldsmobile that was probably five years old. It had been well taken car of but it had something like 120,000 miles. The price wass very attractive because of the miles and it sold quickly. The seller gave him all of the maintenance records and told him that as far as he knew the car was sound. He also reminded the new buyer that it did have a lot of miles.
 
Three months later( I think) the transmission went bad and the seller ended up in Small Claims Court.
 
The miserable judge made him pay for half the cost of a rebuild!

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