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Re: Selling my Audi...weird buyer request. [manku] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Feb 13, 2008 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: manku (Feb 09, 2008 8:58 am)

NO WAY! Don't do this
 
Besides, the insurance company doesn't want his car. He could easily buy it back from them for 10-13% of the total compensation. Then he could strip off the parts at leisure and junk the car--perhaps not for what he paid, but not too much less.
 
So he's not being entirely up front with you here.
 
I wouldn't let anyone lay a finger on your car until it's paid for.
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Re: Selling my Audi...weird buyer request. [Mr_Shiftright] by manku
Feb 13, 2008 (8:56 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 13, 2008 6:52 pm)

Ok...a little more detail. He has shown me a picture of old car before accident with rims, shifter and a 400hp engine. That is what needs to be swapped.
 
He calls me today and I tell him I need to be protected - $1000 deposit, and copy of drivers license, pink slip and all his insurance contact information (farmers). He is going to scan and email tomorrow morning. He wants to swap out parts, farmers picks up car, then sends me check.
 
He says farmers is settling for 22k+, and will pick up car later this week.
 
What is my financial risk? If he disappears, can't I just say the car has been stolen (which it has). I'd like to dump the car - it needs new tires and brakes (that $1K), and buy a new one. I won't get close to this price on a trade in.
 
Thanks again.
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Re: Selling my Audi...weird buyer request. [manku] by qbrozen
Feb 14, 2008 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: manku (Feb 13, 2008 8:56 pm)

Suggest he get a loan elsewhere and pay that with the check he gets from insurance. Essentially, he is borrowing the money from you. Not something I would do with a stranger, that's for sure.
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Re: Selling my Audi...weird buyer request. [manku] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Feb 14, 2008 (3:15 pm)
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Replying to: manku (Feb 13, 2008 8:56 pm)

I think you are letting your attachment to the selling price cloud your vision, is all I'm saying. He is pressurizing you into something that needs no pressure. He's already doing something dishonest, so why do you trust him? If he settled for $22K, that car is not his property, anymore than you settling on a price with him and then swapping the tires and removing the sound system before you deliver it to him.
 
And what if someone screws up your car removing parts and then says "oh we don't want it, it doesn't run right?"
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Re: Selling my Audi...weird buyer request. [Mr_Shiftright] by joel0622
Feb 14, 2008 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 14, 2008 3:15 pm)

Another thing you may not want to get in the middle of here is if there is a salvage bid on the wrecked car then that salvage bid is based off what is on it. If he strips the car and that causes the salvage bidder to back out on the insurance company you are no an accessory to the crime.
 
This is not the insurance companies first rodeo, they know how the car is equipped. They people good money to make professional evaluations of these cars, along with pictures.
 
I think you are asking for trouble myself.
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Re: private party sale [middleageguy] by middleageguy
Feb 18, 2008 (4:15 pm)
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Replying to: middleageguy (Feb 01, 2008 6:36 am)

Sold my Jeep Wrangler in less than a week on Craigs List.
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Selling Financed Car Help by thejax2006
Feb 28, 2008 (9:33 am)
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Hello,
 
I need to sell my car. My question is this...my car is financed, so I don't have the title. I need the money from the sale of the car to pay off the loan to get the title. Can someone please tell me what the process should be in a private sale? I mean...will a buyer give me the money without me giving him/her the title right away? Can I even do that legally?
 
This is my first car so I'm very new to all of this..thanks for anyone who can help.
 
Thanks
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Re: Selling Financed Car Help [thejax2006] by tidester HOST
Feb 28, 2008 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: thejax2006 (Feb 28, 2008 9:33 am)

This may help: kiawah, "Questions About Private Sale Transactions" #136, 25 Jan 2008 2:22 pm
 
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Re: Selling Financed Car Help [thejax2006] by kiawah
Feb 28, 2008 (1:04 pm)
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Replying to: thejax2006 (Feb 28, 2008 9:33 am)

You can't sell the car, since you don't own the car outright....the bank or financing institution owns a piece of the car.
 
This becomes more difficult when you are trying to sell a car that has a lien. You basically have two options. You can:
a.) Borrow money from a personal source (dear ole dad), pay off the loan, get the clean title, sell the vehicle using the regular transaction process, pay back d.o.d. out of the proceeds. or,
b.) You have to orchestrate a three way 'closing', between you (part owner), your bank ( where you have the loan, the other part owner), and the buyer. You'll undoubtedly end up faxing and notarizing paperwork back and forth, and this becomes a real pain. The bank will also have to give you a "payoff amount", as of a specific date....which is the amount of the check that they will get to close out the loan. At 'closing' there will be two checks cut (or deposits into your respective accounts), one will go to the bank who originated the loan, and the remainder will go to you. If you call the bank, their loan department can help you with this, and give you some guidance as to how they handle it in your geography/state.
 
It is much easier to do this when the buyer is a dealership, carmax, or some other company which does this all the time and have administrators that orchestrate all of this for you. They also are willing to absorb a little of the risk as a purchaser, and have a good sense when all the paperwork appears proper. Just put yourself in a buyers shoes....no way would you be willing to turn over a check to someone, without immediately getting all of the supporting paperwork that shows you have purchased the vehicle and will ultimately be able to get a title issued in your name from the DMV.
 
Dear ole dad, really makes life simpler if at all possible....and hopefully you are close to the end of the loan where the payoff amount isn't that much to begin with.
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Re: Selling Financed Car Help [kiawah] by thejax2006
Mar 05, 2008 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: kiawah (Feb 28, 2008 1:04 pm)

Thanks for the info! Very helpful!

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