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Replying to: carchatnj (Feb 05, 2008 9:06 am) There you can sample them all back to back, without any pressure from salesmen. Test fit each one, see how seat comfort is, check out cargo room, visibility, etc. Take your time doing so. Narrow it down to your top few choices, then test drive those. Sample the Tribeca and the Veracruz while you're at it, both have nice interiors. |
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Replying to: chelentano (Jan 16, 2008 8:13 pm) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t09ExAUgtyE&feature=related Pretty amazing at any price point, even more so at Subaru's prices.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 05, 2008 12:01 pm)
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Replying to: jeffmc (Feb 05, 2008 2:42 pm) If better off road traction is what you're looking for, the Subie's certainly have an advantage. |
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Replying to: jeffmc (Feb 05, 2008 2:42 pm) And they could have rigged the test for the competitors to fail. For example: that performed like a FWD CR-V, LOL.  But...what it does prove is that even a basic Forester X, priced under $20 grand, has a good enough AWD system to distribute enough power between front and rear axles to pass the front-to-rear test. The VDC system goes a step further and can send enough power side-to-side, to any given wheel. They can't rig that test. VDC makes it up, clear as day. So rather than wait for a rebuttle, instead I'll challenge Mitsubishi fans to show me an Outlander (or Endeavor) that can make it up one of those ramps. The proof is in the pudding. Remember, despite all the acronyms, C&D rated it in last place among compact crossovers in the off road portion of the test. So simple challenge - prove them wrong. |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 05, 2008 12:01 pm) You post another Subaru marketing video and you call it a "proof"? I can’t even see if that CR-V has rear wheels spinning: it could be very well a 2WD version of CR-V. There are so many other ways to stage that “test”. Not just me, but a lot of people on Youtube doubt the authenticity of that video. The last party I would trust is a car salesman. But if you like marketing videos, I have got some. Lancer AWD vs. Lamborghini AWD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWQDWXviuFM Mitsubishi Pajero AWD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkMjhzv_zzE Two Outlander videos in snow. If you ever driven a car in a heavy snow, you could tell that this Outlander AWD performance is impressive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3arUMr2PsI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJt0j38JJBA&feature=related |
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Replying to: chelentano (Feb 09, 2008 1:09 am) Sure- marketing videos may be biased to favor their brand. But I don't buy your accusation that the whole thing was rigged. (by using a 2WD CRV) I've taken my Tribeca on some reasonably hairy 4WD roads and have been quite impressed. If that video isn't significant evidence that Subaru's symmetrical AWD VTD system doesn't transfer 100% of its power to a single wheel- I don't know what is. But, regardless, the Tribeca is pretty dang good off road. Just ask anyone who's ever take one there.
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Replying to: morey000 (Feb 09, 2008 12:26 pm) Yea, marketing is biased by nature. . >> I've taken my Tribeca on some reasonably hairy 4WD roads and have been quite impressed. You should make a video then. I'd love to see in in heavy snow. . >> If that video isn't significant evidence that Subaru's symmetrical AWD VTD system doesn't transfer 100% of its power to a single wheel- I don't know what is. Yea, I also don't know what is evidence. Nothing really. There is no Subaru offroad rally wins, no independent tests to prove that. Even the official Subaru site does not state that it can transfer 100% of its power to a single wheel. So far it's more like wishfull thinking. . >> But, regardless, the Tribeca is pretty dang good off road. Just ask anyone who's ever take one there. It may be good, why not. But it does not appear to be the best
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Replying to: carchatnj (Feb 05, 2008 9:06 am) What major blind spots do you see in the 09 Murano? I was interested in the Murano and trying to find out what other people have to say about it. thx.
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