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Kia Optima Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: Optima or Forte? [csandste] by backy
Aug 03, 2009 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: csandste (Aug 03, 2009 3:12 pm)

Dealer names can be posted. But posting the name of the dealer doesn't "spend" as well as getting money back, if in fact it was "scammed." If it were me, I'd post the dealer's name AND check into the validity of the mysterious $149 charge. (The etching charge has been explained already.)
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Re: Optima or Forte? [backy] by mcmax
Aug 03, 2009 (7:46 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 03, 2009 3:28 pm)

I went to the dealership today for installation of the radio. While that was being done, I asked to see the finance man. I said I had questions about two of the charges. He said the $149.50 charge was for document fees and that "every dealer has document fees". I said I didn't have any idea what it was since it wasn't listed on the paperwork. Not knowing if I was going to get anywhere with that, I then asked him about the $299 fee. He said it was for etching and the national database and that all the dealership's cars have it. I said it sounds like the same thing I can do with a $20 kit and 15 minutes of my time. He then said "I don't want to upset you." I said good. He said he would refund the money for the etching and I would receive a check in 10 days for $299. It's kinda funny - I was very calm, to the point,but firm. He said "I don't want to upset you" twice (which was weird because I wasn't "upset", quite the opposite). Me thinks he's had to go through this before...and knows it is a scam. I shook his hand and left. $149.50 seems high for "document fees" but I'm just happy to get $299 back.
 
Now if the check doesn't come... I will post the dealership name. As I'm typing this, two of his other dealerships' commercials have aired on the TV. Weird.
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Re: Optima or Forte? [mcmax] by backy
Aug 04, 2009 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: mcmax (Aug 03, 2009 7:46 pm)

Document fees are a legit charge, although $149 is on the high side. You did well on keeping your cool and getting the $299 back.
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mcmax... by iluvmysephia1
Aug 04, 2009 (1:16 pm)
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congrats on getting the $299 back, your questioning paid off!
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Re: Optima or Forte? [backy] by m6user
Aug 21, 2009 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 04, 2009 10:12 am)

The "standard" doc charge in Illinois, which is the most allowed by state law which is of course the amount that every dealer charges is about $150 now. I think it is actually $151.50 or something like that. Twenty years ago it was $75 so you can see how much it has went up. They can get in trouble charging different amounts to different people so if the dealership charges it to one person that have to charge the same thing to everyone. So they all just charge the same. No discrimination possible that way.
 
I've heard of a few states that are less but most seem to be in that range. It seems like the SE US dealers are the ones that really tack on the charges....like $400 to $700 which is really gouging IMO.
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Price Paid by tallgrass1
Aug 22, 2009 (8:43 am)
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We just bought a 2009 Optima LX in Cash for Clunkers,,no special features
I think its the most basic model - we paid $11,500. after the KIA rebate, the competitor rebate for our VM passat (both these rebates totalled $3500) , and the $3,500 we got for the Cash for Clunkers. I always think to myself I could have gotten a "better deal",,if I had held on a little longer. The MSRP including a few small options, like floor mats and cargo net and tray, was $19,145.00
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Kia- Keeping Exterior Finish Shiny by tallgrass1
Aug 22, 2009 (8:48 am)
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For our new black car, any tips on keeping the finish up ? The dealer promoted "the Protector",,which we did get for our Passat years back. I can't say if it has helped the Passat or not,,,but I would say, the finish doesn't look half bad for a car with 140,000 miles on it.
 
 So, my question is, what are others experience with "The Protector" ? Is it worth the $895.00 price ( for both interior and exterior)..or are there other products recommended that would do as well, The dealer promoted "the Protector" as anti-rust agent as well.
 
Thank you for any advice. It seems like a black colored car will "show everything",,,so I am concerned about keeping it up.
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Re: Kia- Keeping Exterior Finish Shiny [tallgrass1] by backy
Aug 22, 2009 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: tallgrass1 (Aug 22, 2009 8:48 am)

I use Meguiar's Gold Class liquid on my cars and have had good results. I have to park two of them outside now (the other two get the garage; one is at school with my oldest son); one of those is nine years old and the other almost six, and the finish still shines like new. One of those is white, the other bright red (which like black tends to show everything, as does my dark blue Rabbit).
 
Personally, I enjoy waxing a car and would rather pay $10 once a year or so for a bottle of wax and wax each car 2-3 times a year than pay $895. Also I have a can of Scotchgard I've had for years and use that on cloth interiors as soon as I drive the car home--takes about 10 minutes to apply. But, it's your money, and maybe you don't like the effort involved in waxing a car.
 
BTW... any wax will act as an "anti-rust agent" by protecting the paint and scratches from the elements.
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Re: Kia- Keeping Exterior Finish Shiny [backy] by tallgrass1
Aug 22, 2009 (10:52 am)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 22, 2009 9:30 am)

Backy- thanks for the recommendation on the wax. That's what I was thinking - maybe just a good wax ( 2-3 times year) is all I need for much less $$.
 
Also, thanks for mentioning the Scotchgard. In general, how often do you apply it ?
 
I have the "beige" interior
  
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Re: Kia- Keeping Exterior Finish Shiny [tallgrass1] by csandste
Aug 22, 2009 (12:11 pm)
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Replying to: tallgrass1 (Aug 22, 2009 8:48 am)

The dealer makes a good deal and then recoups his money with finish protectors, pinstriping and extended warranties. No thank you!

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